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RE: Here's the truth. - Adonai One - 06-21-2013
I think the entity's preference is the most important thing here. That's all I will say on the matter of channeling in regards to me. Did Q'uo ever say their name belonged to L/L?
Quote:Does this sound a little ludicrous to you? Would any of us be able to prove that it was the same entities? Would any of us be able to compare the frequency, in order to rule out multiple spirits, beings, and thought forms, having fun at each of our expense?
What is wrong with comparing, testing and experimenting? Won't that only lead to the truth inevitably? What do we fear losing so much? So much fear. Control with no real stimulus comes out of fear.
Of course this would be within its own board with warnings. If people react to things out of their own freewill, what's the problem? Why must we control the reactions and wills of people?
Yes people may change their minds about things but that is their god-given right. People have the right to think.
Anyways, if the owners of this forum ever want me to stop talking, I will. I will not infringe on the freewill of others. I feel I already have.
This is a newfound principle it seems... It seems I never really followed it too closely. And with that, I express my remorse.
RE: Here's the truth. - Hototo - 06-21-2013
(06-21-2013, 12:09 AM)Adonai One Wrote: I am sorry if I have infringed the freewill of others through this.
On 3rd density societies it is impossible to infringe on the free will of others because others choose to allow you to infringe on their free will..
Other than that nothing here that sparks my curiosity yet (continues reading).
(Is done reading and ponders.)
My only recommendation now is that you, A1 realize that channeling, even when succesfull, especially so I would say from experience, is excrusiatingly exhausting on a level that most people will not be able to detect, channels included.
This will cause a situation where the actions of the channel are close to if not the same as a person who has been kept awake for too long due to the effect of the concious mind having to "reboot" all its normal cognitive processess "okay, so I'm in the 3rd density, these things apply, this world has these parameters, I know these people who expect this of me." and so on. It is tempting to not restart the processes at which point dialogues turn into "I don't have that program running because I don't feel like I need it right now because I dropped it for the last time I channeled, but that other person has never channeled that so never dropped that and it will require extra effort to drop and pick up again and they have no desire to drop for the first time so I am kind of stuck outside of their conversational patterns due to having dropped certain processess. So My mind senses it as them demanding of me, and they sense it as me demanding of them. While in reality it is the after effect and the exhaustion from the channeling itself, which requires a good support group and loving comfort after the attempts are made to balance and accept the need to pick up the normal human attributes again after the channeling or risk being stuck in between tick and tock."
From this you may understand the root cause of this exhaustion that you feel that is projected onto this forum. It is not the fault of this forum, as such, mostly because this forum does not in anyway (for the most part) attempt to ground you into 3rd D reality, and I should know. I've been so out of reality for such a long time and still feel very little to no real efforts to ground me. I mean come on I'm openly talking of switching personalities and using godlike powers to do insane things, most of which I can more or less prove but not all. And no one here seems to mind. That means that either they all ignore me, which they don't based on how many people still respond. Or the far more likely. No one here would be "racist" enough to go oppress me for liking to stay somewhere between 5th and 7th densities while on this forum.
Most people here know that I more or less "channel" things and randomly hit things that will provide insane amounts of boost for other M/B/S's due to me stumbling around in an area that I know very little to nothing about but doing so in a manner of love and light and so my channelings lack a name except for the user name which i change in tune of the major mode of action or spirit style I am trying to convey and or contact.
Most people here do the same. You might say that this place is in effect a Tether to the higher densities where the rules of the tether themselves are maintained, but as for transfer fees and the likes. There are very few.
So, That being said. Would I transfer my current style of communication to a "high on up" giving of instructions to convey a random detail. I would not. But if I feel the need to while I sit here to resonate with the opposite of what people here feel but in a way that is loving and in balance I will do so. I simply do not call it channeling because as per my understanding, my presence here is in and of itself a channeled entity so to channel another layer now would be to channel a sub-sub-sub-sub logos or some such.
In closing, there are a near infinite number of styles to channel and the style that you use will be built by you. I have built my own into, for now, to the side of the B4 but I feel I can move it without too much effort into a new base. *sighs*
Well. That's all I have to say about that. Channeling is an interesting business to get into but you really really must remember to start up your 3rd D processess again afterwards or sleep and ask for sleep time reboot, or you will come off continuously as cranky regardless of what you actually may or may not feel. (Energy mismatch due to missing attributes not on after channeling is my final statement on the nature of the mismatch, and it has little to nothing to do with the name itself, though I agree that L/L shouldn't use intellectual property to patent a word like Q'uo. But since the principles of how channeling and the naming of entities works is quite well explained by Q'uo /Ra of Carla et al fame. I would be hesitant to say that it matters at all if everyone in the world simply start to use Q'uo as a new word for channeling. It simply is a form of worship and I can assure you. That stuff WILL happen the same way it did in ancient eqypt. You guys will be worshipped, so will me and everyone else who is active in these places. Mistakes rebound and are fixed throughout "eternity". and so forth)
RE: Here's the truth. - ChickenInSpace - 06-21-2013
Ho hum, here was alot of popcorn spilled. The trails of the eaters are everywhere =).
The scientific approach to a subject is letting the accumulated research free to be reviewed by peer community. To disencourage peers in itself is problematic. To warn about the dangers of these practices (and to do them on your own) is probably healthy. Also to release information on How to do these things with your own groups are healthy.
Research about a certain type of viruses, for example, can never be the property of a department of immunology. However, a designed virus could be protected if you've patented the mutationn but then you'd be a). Creating your own contact (i.e. probably not Q'uo) and b). Walking into the borderlands between STS/STO.
My two bits.
RE: Here's the truth. - Jade - 06-21-2013
(06-20-2013, 11:37 PM)Adonai One Wrote: Let it be known that I have not coerced a single individual. I am only doing what I feel is my duty to make my voice heard.
I ask of nothing. You are free to ignore me.
I only want to be of service. I only want information to travel without restriction. These are preferences. I do not hold them as illusory rights.
I will say I am offended that I am talked down to in a community that supposedly upholds unconditional love and communication but I am just as guilty of being conditional in many respects.
This is merely my passion I have for this material. I honestly would die for it. However, the idea that I have to work way my up and be approved of to have an unconditional voice in this community -- I would not die for that.
Thank you for considering my point, I think I owe you a bit of clarification of what I meant.
By imposing 4D and creating a free-will violation I meant in this very specific instance of you asking for a rule to be broken/made for you. I know it is a subject that you are passionate about, but you cannot expect all other entities to be moved by passion alone. The admin Gary is on vacation and you can't put it in your pocket for a few weeks so as not to disturb his downtime. Patience is always helpful. I'm just attempting to offer for consideration the ramifications to being the squeakiest wheel.