RE: My Awakening. Or Grand Delusion. You Choose. - 111 - 09-14-2011
Glad I came across this, syccnronicity is helpful in these times... I was just discussing this with a fellow Wanderer. Anyself that "wanders" away from Intelligent infinity to experience infinite potentiality withn finite parameters, I could call a wanderer. And also,In my understanding of Infinite potential, there is no reason to doubt ANYTHING your mind is perceiving. Nothing is false if it exsist somewhere. That somewhere is within your mind and emotions and within infinite potential. Now, I have memorys and experiences that I have asked for that back up MY faith in this understanding. Everyone might not have the same and thats where doubts and fears start clogging up our own awakening. You asked the question "what does everyone feel about wanderers" because that doubt still exsists heavily in this feild and in the minds of Many who are awakening to this transition. But learning to trust ourselves as one with the infinite and listen to that spark within our hearts, that speaks to us as intuition is key in comforting ourself and otherselfs through this transition. Anything is possible and those who want to doubt that there are densities and star travelers, well they can create that illusion for themselves and exsit there if they choose... I choose to create and wandering sounds pretty freakin wonderful to me <3
RE: My Awakening. Or Grand Delusion. You Choose. - Tenet Nosce - 09-15-2011
(09-14-2011, 11:55 AM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: (09-14-2011, 11:45 AM)Namaste Wrote: Considering 4D bodies are no longer chemical - I'm going to make a guess: no :¬)
I'm not sure they're not chemical. They may just be different chemicals:
Quote:43.16 Questioner: The physical vehicle that is used in fourth-density space/time is, I am assuming, quite similar to the one that is now used in third density. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. The chemical elements used are not the same. However, the appearance is similar.
Thank you for this. I just came across this quote:
87.22 Wrote:Questioner: In our particular illusion the sexual potential for the male seems to peak somewhere prior to the age twenty and the female’s peak is some ten years later. What is the cause of this difference in peaking sexual energy?
Ra: I am Ra. We must make clear distinction between the yellow-ray, third-density, chemical bodily complex and the body complex which is a portion of the mind/body/spirit complex.
RE: My Awakening. Or Grand Delusion. You Choose. - Ankh - 09-15-2011
Still under construction? Jee, Tenet, are you creating a reply or a thought form pyramid? ROFL
RE: My Awakening. Or Grand Delusion. You Choose. - Meerie - 09-15-2011
Tenet is creating the post of all posts. The uber post. Trust me, you ain't seen nothing yet. When he is done, this forum will erupt in one cataclysmic ball of fire and explode.
Watch out, and fasten your seat belts.
RE: My Awakening. Or Grand Delusion. You Choose. - Tenet Nosce - 09-15-2011
THE POINT
So what is my point? Do I need delve into the endless details to get there? Obviously not. But I wanted to establish enough information above to at least demonstrate that any "concerns" that I hold not simply baseless, off-the-cuff, and superficially considered. They are the result of very deeply seeking into the heart of this matter.
So while I may still go back and add information earlier- I wanted it to be sufficient enough to demonstrate why I "care" both in terms of the planetary consciousness, and my own personal life.
OK- so here goes.
1. L/L Research channels Ra from 1981-1984 and publishes the material, minus the Book V elements.
2. The "premature" discussion on earth changes occurred, as suggested above.
3. Seeker/entity David Wilcock sleeps in the "Ra Bed", receiving all manner of unusual catalyst.
4. At some point, and for reasons undisclosed (personal?) DW and L/L Research discontinue their close association.
5. DW writes a series of e-books on the scientific basis of the Ra material.
6. Somewhere around 1994, DW starts a website/forum called ascension2000. Simply note the name, and draw some logical conclusions as to what that was "about".
7. This is how I get introduced to the Ra material.
8. In 1995/1996 DW publicly declares himself to be the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce (remember his focus on "earth changes"?) and also publicly declares to have experienced a 5D attack.
9. This ostensibly attracted a massive amount of negative feedback from some forum members, causing him to shut the forum down and re-open as divinecosmos.com. Note also that the year "2000" comes and goes with not so much as a peep.
10. Once established on divinecosmos.com, the message of DW takes a profound SHIFT toward UFO's, ET's, Disclosure, and the like. This shift occurs after the publishing of Book V material in 1998.
11. Starting in 2005/2006 DW claims to be in contact with all manner of "insiders" confirming to him this or that about 2012, UFO's and the like.
12. DW all the while remains utterly convinced that whatever protection measures he takes to counter negative manipulation are 100% infallible.
13. In 2010, DW publicly declares that... not only are "ET's" immanently coming back to usher the world into a "New Golden Age" but that most of these "ET's" are -not only positive in orientation- but mostly look just like us.
14. All the while, there is very little talk about "densities" and the like. The impression is given that these are all 3D beings flying around through outer space in order to come to 3D earth.
Now, let me offer again the Ra quotes:
90.6 Wrote:Questioner: If the population of this planet presently looks similar to fifth-density entities I was wondering why this is? If I understand you correctly the process of evolution would normally be that of third density resembling that from which evolved in second density and refining it in fourth and then again in fifth density, becoming what the population of this looks like in the third density. It seems to me that this planet is ahead of itself by the way that its mind/body/spirit complex or body complex looks. What is the reason for this?
Ra: I am Ra. Your query is based upon a misconception. Do you wish us to comment or do you wish to requestion?
90.7 Wrote:Questioner: Please comment on my misconception if that is possible.
Ra: I am Ra. In fifth density the manifestation of the physical complex is more and more under the control of the conscious mind complex. Therefore, the fifth-density entity may dissolve one manifestation and create another. Consequently, the choice of a fifth-density entity or complex of entities wishing to communicate with your peoples would be to resemble your peoples’ physical-complex, chemical, yellow-ray vehicles.
90.8 Wrote:Questioner: I see. Very roughly, if you were to move a third-density entity from some other planet to this planet, what percentage of all of those within the knowledge of Ra would look enough like entities of Earth so that they would go unnoticed in a crowd?
Ra: I am Ra. Perhaps five percent.
90.9 Wrote:Questioner: Then there is an extreme variation in the form of the physical vehicle in third density in the universe. I assume that this is also true of fourth density. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is so. We remind you that it is a great theoretical distance between demanding that the creatures of an infinite creation be unnoticeably similar to one’s self and observing those signs which may be called human which denote the third-density characteristics of self-consciousness, the grouping into pairs, societal groups, and races, and the further characteristic means of using self-consciousness to refine and search for the meaning of the milieu.
90.10 Wrote:Questioner: Within Ra’s knowledge of the third-density physical forms, what percentage would be similar enough to this planet’s physical forms that we would assume the entities to be human even though they were a bit different? This would have to be very rough because of my definition’s being very rough.
Ra: I am Ra. This percentage is still small; perhaps thirteen to fifteen percent due to the capabilities of various second-density life forms to carry out each necessary function for third-density work. Thusly to be observed would be behavior indicating self-consciousness and purposeful interaction with a sentient ambiance about the entity rather than those characteristics which familiarly connote to your peoples the humanity of your third-density form.
Now, when DW started talking about how most "ET's" are friendly and that they mostly look like us, this did not sit well with me at all. Something about it just seemed "wrong" and as well I immediately noticed little to no discussion about the densities where most of these "ET's" would be originating.
When DW started making predictions last year that "Disclosure" was immanent, it propelled me to more deeply investigate the UFO/ET phenomenon.
***Please now call forth your love and light while I temporarily delve in to "conspiracy theories"***
My investigations concluded that, at some point in the distant past which we term the "Golden Age", 4D and 3D entities commingled upon this earth. While certain positive beings, for various reasons, retreated from 3D physicality- some others remained. These are who are known as the "gods". In order to stay physical, the "gods" needed humans to perform blood sacrifices and rituals. When that manipulation started to fail, the "gods" decided to whip up perpetual war in order to have a continual stream of human sacrifice.
There is also evidence to believe that the "gods" somehow recycled this collected energy and used it to manufacture foods and beverages such as "manna" or "soma" which artificially raised the abilities of those who consumed them. This was used to further exaggerate the difference between the chosen "elite" and the populace, and also resulted in those elite becoming addicted to these substances.
Despite these rituals being handed down through the ages through elite power groups such as the "Illuminati", something has caused them to be less and less effective over time. This caused them to "freak out" and deeply investigate into the nature and cause of this phenomenon. They were eventually led back to the time period of "2012" as a time/space nexus beyond which they were unable to see.
This set in motion a plan to stage an overt "takeover" of the earth in order to firmly re-establish control before this time. I understand that both a false-flag "Alien Invasion" as well as a false-flag "Alien Rescue" scenario were considered. In either case- the thrust of the manipulation is to keep humans so fearful and outward-focused during the coming time, that the "ET's" (read 4D/neg) would be able to force the entire planet into willful enslavement through the formation of a "One World Government". Once control had been effectively established, the 4D/neg entities intend to "hijack" 3D by physically inhabiting bodies. This could occur through cloning, reanimation of mummies, "walk-ins", or other means.
*** END "conspiracy theory" section, thank you for entertaining such nonsensical beliefs ***
NOW, after the public disclosure "Event" failed to manifest last year, DW has begun announcing the "breakup of the Illumaniti/power elite". This, again, being through his "insider" sources who curiously remain "undisclosed" themselves. At some point he declared that, in fact the light had "won" and that the negative influences would shortly be removed from this sphere completely.
As one can obviously see, war and famine continue to rage on.
NOW, a few weeks ago, DW comes out with a monumental work called "The Source Field Investigations". I am currently about half way through this work. So far, I am excited to see DW get back to the scientific roots of his mission. I truly think his intentions are pure.
Yet still, besides the release of the book (on the NYT bestseller list), and the announcement of a forthcoming "blockbuster" movie- DW persists in injecting the following ideas into the mass consciousness:
1. Nearly all "ET's" currently in this sphere are "good" and looking out for humanity's best interest.
2. The vast majority of "ET's" look just like we earth humans.
3. The "illuminati" power elite groups have been utterly defeated- there is ZERO chance that their plans will succeed.
4. The planet is on the verge of "ascension" after which human beings will all have supernatural powers such as telepathy, and even will be able to fly.
NOW- for one who claims that the entire philosophical basis for his works is the Ra material- it seems to me that he is promoting some concepts which are WILDLY different- and may in fact play right into the power elite "agenda".
I hope this summarizes my "concern".
Please do further understand that I am attempting to resolve this with the notion that "All Is Well".
Please also inquire if there appears to be missing information, and/or point out any flaws in logic you may notice.
Thanks for reading.
RE: My Awakening. Or Grand Delusion. You Choose. - Ruth - 09-15-2011
Tenet Nosce - thank you for all your hard work, study and insight. I sincerely appreciate it and always enjoy reading what you have to say. I "feel" the love and caring with which you so diligently prepare your posts. I really mean it!
Love and light!
RE: My Awakening. Or Grand Delusion. You Choose. - yossarian - 09-15-2011
(09-15-2011, 12:17 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: THE POINT
DW is running on the theory that anything that causes fear in his readers strengthens the Illuminati/evil entities. So he is trying to awaken people to new realities without causing fear, and this is why he leaves out all the terrifying stuff about human sacrifices and 5D entities feeding off our soul energy. At least, this is his public rationale.
He doesn't claim that all aliens look like humans but rather that the majority of those visiting us look like humans, and that the good aliens are stronger than the evil ones, and the evil ones have no chance in winning.
I guess your theory that you're hinting at is that DW was totally possessed and compromised back when he did foolish things like sleep on the Ra Bed and channel Ra while totally alone. And now he is arguing for complacency to de-fang any who would challenge the powers that be. Get people to believe they are already saved and those people will not fight back, right?
Also I guess that David is setting us all up for a fake alien saviour event that is just another Illuminati deception.
Personally there are some questions that I believe I am incapable of answering. There is no simple method to test this hypothesis. If David is a deception he certainly is a new level of sophistication for this type of material.
I personally have no idea what is going to happen in 2012. If nothing happens I will be disappointed but not particularly surprised. There have been so many doomsday cults that posit some world-changing event at some moment in the future -- while there is all this compelling evidence it's not the type of stuff that an individual can draw conclusions from.
And like you pointed out, David initially thought it was going to happen January 1st 2000 and it didn't. He's already been wrong about so many predictions including that big date. I guess he has confidence in his stuff because of his guidance which he finds totally convincing due to supernatural events. But his supernatural experiences don't do much for convincing us, do they?
Ra said the harvest was 2011 and yet here we are. 100X more harmonious by January? Not likely by any gradualism theory.
RE: My Awakening. Or Grand Delusion. You Choose. - Tenet Nosce - 09-15-2011
Thank you all for your thoughts, contemplation, and kind words of support. I am interested in all that you feel moved to share.
In the meantime, I have "stumbled upon" another method of investigation which may prove to be immensely useful. So perhaps, all of this seeking has led me to this new understanding, which I would like to now share.
It is simply this: every moment contains love.
In a more practical sense, I hypothesized that perhaps, somewhere buried in the transcripts was the information I needed in order to help me move toward healing and resolution of the events partially described above. In particular, what I referred to as "THE INCIDENT".
The solution is a simple one. I went back and looked at the transcripts for the first session following this experience, and lo and behold, it contains just the information that it useful to me in this moment, now.
It also appears that Q'uo was feeling particularly verbose that day!
I am both grateful, and feeling sheepish that all this time has passed and it never before occurred to me to do this. I thank all who have been offering to me positive intentions, as surely this has helped me to come to this new, and exciting, understanding. My thanks also to Q'uo, who would appear wise beyond my comprehension.
... and now to the Q'uote... may you find something especially just for yourself within... or not...
http://llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2003/2003_0406.aspx
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Copyright © 2003 L/L Research
ABOUT THE CONTENTS OF THIS TRANSCRIPT: This telepathic channeling has been taken from transcriptions of the weekly study and meditation meetings of the Rock Creek Research & Development Laboratories and L/L Research. It is offered in the hope that it may be useful to you. As the Confederation entities always make a point of saying, please use your discrimination and judgment in assessing this material. If something rings true to you, fine. If something does not resonate, please leave it behind, for neither we nor those of the Confederation would wish to be a stumbling block for any.
Sunday Meditation
April 6, 2003
Group question: The question today, Q’uo, has to do with what it seems like a lot of people are feeling these days, because the United States is engaged in a very destructive war with Iraq, and times just seem like they’re full of stress. There’s more to do than there’s time to do. A lot of people are feeling sadness, anger, frustration and doubt. These things just seem to come bubbling out. We’re wondering if there is a way of maintaining one’s harmony in such times; if there is a way of dealing with these difficulties that will bring us back to harmony? We appreciate anything that you might have to say about how we can deal with the difficult times that are within us and about us.
(Carla channeling)
We are those known to you as Q’uo, and we greet you in the love and in the light of the one infinite Creator, in Whose service we come to you this day. We wish to thank you for the great blessing of your company and the beauty of your vibrations as you sit in this sweet circle of seeking. We thank you especially for taking the time out of that life which, by your question, is represented as being most busy and somewhat difficult. Yet you have found the time and the place to come together simply to seek the truth. For this we thank you, for it is a great blessing to us to be able to share our thoughts with you and to be called to your meeting.
We share these thoughts with you with the request that, in listening to them, each be very discriminating as to those thoughts which you accept and use as resources. We would not ask that you look upon us as authorities but rather as those with an opinion which we are glad to share on the basis of our being friends and neighbors with you, not simply in terms of time and space but in terms of the nature of our beings and the journey which we share. If you are able to use your discrimination in listening to our thoughts then that will free us to be able to express them without fear that we would be infringing upon any entity’s free will.
You ask us this day concerning the peace and harmony that is so beloved and so dearly sought among your peoples and yet is seemingly quite elusive at times for many of your peoples. The description of the times as being troubled and the self as being troubled seem to be that truth which lies upon the surface of the minds of many of those present and certainly it echoes those thoughts which are upon the minds of your people in general, for upon a global basis the great cry of your planet and its people is for harmony and peace.
This instrument wished to use the term “grass roots,” and we stopped this instrument from using that term to describe that energy which is bubbling up. For in “grass roots” we would not make the pun without intending to! And we wish to say that the energy of harmony and peace is indeed bubbling up out of the grass roots themselves, out of every seed and every living thing that takes its life from the soil and turns towards the sun in your second density. The energies which turn towards harmony and peace are those energies which you possess in each cell of your vehicle upon the physical level, and in your finer bodies within the inner levels as well.
There is an instinct within each spark of the Creator’s light for the balancing of the energy to a default setting of peace and joy. The impulse and energy which nurtures this into manifestation, however, is the impulse—not towards joy or towards peace—but that instinct that lies in the direction of single-mindedness or, as the one known as V has said, the discipline of the personality. So we would take some time to discuss this concept of the default setting of joy and peace.
It is our bias as we look upon this circle of entities, with their beautiful energy vehicles shimmering, that we see that view which lies the deepest most easily and that portion of you which lies upon the surface least easily, whereas within the physical incarnation such as you now enjoy, unless the vehicle in which you enjoy living has been born blind or there are other perceptual difficulties of a substantial nature, that which comes easiest to your senses and to your observational powers is that which is seen, heard, smelled, tasted and felt. The priorities of your earthly experience, then, focus upon those things about you as an entity which are the least authentic or real. And yet, it is at the level of these inauthentic and illusory structures which this instrument calls “consensus reality” in which you spend your days and your working hours. And we do grasp that there is every temptation and every logical reason for each of you to wander far from the concept of the self as one whose mind is on only one thing and that is the love of the one infinite Creator.
We gaze within this instrument’s mind to find description of this paradox and find her experience of long and busy and well-crafted days of toil in which many chores of varying kinds are approached, organized and removed from the list of things to do. This, within this instrument, we find to be the source of almost no stress, and this is remarkable, for among your people there is the tendency, not only to have too much to do, but also to find oneself being concerned about the fact that one has to much to do. This kind of energy then snowballs upon itself and creates an ever greater sensitivity to one’s lacks and failures to achieve that which has been expected of one either by the self or by others.
Within this instrument’s mind we also find constant efforts towards the re-tuning of the mind and it is in this direction that we would like to go in discussing ways to work with the situation which you now enjoy, which is, basically, a very good environment: observe, analyze, and alter the priorities of thinking which cause your particular mind and attention to focus upon one thing rather than another of the details of those things which are occurring at any particular moment.
At any particular moment an entity may be experiencing a multitude of catalysts. There are catalysts that come to the ears, the trains that pass, the telephones that ring. There is catalyst for the eye in the passing view and catalyst for all the senses in that which is occurring. There is catalyst for the mind in those thoughts which are sparked by the sense impressions of the moment. And there are those thoughts involved with the reactions to the original thoughts that have been thought by the self. In all of this arrangement, there has been no thought described which has not been caused by the outer environment impressing itself upon the being. The one known as C was expressing her desire to move beyond the thoughts of that level, to move into those thoughts which are authentic, original and her own thoughts, moving from the inside out and not from the outside in, so that there is a feeling of being, shall we say, as the flower that blooms to meet the wind, rather than as the scrap of tattered rag which the wind blows any way that it wishes to, for there is no root in the tatter but only material that has been beaten and torn.
Each of you feels at times as a tattered rag, as a thing for the wind to make sport of and play with and indeed it often feels as if the wind of spirit has picked you up and put you down someplace where you would rather not have been placed.
To the mind that is focused upon the love of the one infinite Creator, the view of all that comes through the senses, the thoughts concerning those sense impressions, and the thoughts judging those thoughts about sense impressions are all seen as the bits of froth upon the surface of the waters of life that they are. If the single thought that the mind is stayed upon is the love of the infinite One, then the being within has the opportunity to choose to maintain that focus, not only in those moments of silence but also in moments in the noise of culture, of warfare, of crowded conditions, of distressing amounts of inequality in a world which yearns and hungers and demands absolute equality.
In your prophetic literature, in your myths and in your sagas, there is much concern for transformational times. Within ancient Roman literature there is Ovid gazing at the metamorphoses of nature and of humankind. Dry-as-dust historians have gazed at the rise and fall of empires. The energies of spiritual leaders such as Jesus the Christ have focused upon the transformation of that which is material into that which is spiritual. And this instrument has followed a long line of studies of various religions and mythologies and philosophical systems in which this matter of how one helps oneself to transform from the lesser into the more noble aspect of self. The stuff of transformation is the stuff of waking from a sleep.
Fortunately, we have that very humble and accessible example of the kind of change that you all face at this time. It is a time of transformation, perhaps most importantly for your planet. The very Earth which has bred you and nurtured you is itself now being born, and this effort and labor go well. Yet there is difficulty. The difficulty is critical in that if the delivery continues to go poorly there will need to be the equivalent of the Cesarean, the removing of portions of the skin of the Earth that the new configuration of the energy-body of the Earth may have room to be born in its appropriate shape and arrangement of energy nexi. It is more for the planet than for the people that many of you have chosen to be in incarnation upon the planet at this time. It was your hope that you would be able, by awakening within the dream of physical life, to become a magical person, a person able to act as a crystal entity, receiving energy, transmuting energy, and sending energy out into the fourth-density web of planet Earth.
That which distracts is always a detail, that which calls you back to remembrance is always discipline. Very seldom does nature so configure experience that it is impossible to miss the spiritual signals. Most usually the hints and clues of spirituality are so configured as to be completely able to be missed, able to be glanced over, able to be prioritized below the threshold of awareness, [displaced] by the affairs and details and chores of the day. Each is aware of the spiritual figures who have indicated through history that, when they are busy, then is the time to rise earlier so that they may pray longer, for it is in the praying that the work gets done rather then in those long daylight hours of toil. This is a great key for those who have ears to hear. We are not suggesting that entities must get up early and meditate before they begin the day in order to prepare, but we are suggesting that the mind of an entity is that which is in a state of extreme vulnerability to the mental conditioning. The power of suggestion is great. Each entity has seen many examples of such suggestion, the most common perhaps being that when one entity yawns, those about that entity will quite often catch the yawn and find themselves expressing similarly.
So it is too with the mass media, the television and the newspapers, those agents of consciousness of which J was speaking, that tend toward creating cookies of the right shape out of the dough of entities’ thoughts so that entities’ opinions upon certain subjects bear a remarkable similarity. They have been listening to one source and in that source lies a structure which seems to explain or justify actions. And [yet] in the details of these actions there is no end to the shades of gray, the ethical questions, the causes for sorrow or anger or concern of one kind or another.
The simplicity of the solution is funny. For the solution to the awareness of trouble is in the turning of the consciousness to the love of the infinite Creator. We do not intend this as a greatly abstract concept. We intend this in another way and we would ask you to open yourselves to the concept that you are the peace and harmony that you seek, for you are a spark of the one great original Thought of the infinite Creator. Say that the Creator, in its infinity, in its impossibility of being described, is a vibration. You have that original vibration, which is unconditional love, as the basis of every cell of your being. Without that Thought of love has nothing been made that is made. It is not something you possess, it is your very nature, it goes far deeper than the marrow of your bones, it is far closer to you than your breathing. It is far more real then the impressions of sense. For it is that impulse and spark without which you could not take thought, take breath, or enjoy existence or consciousness. This nature of the principle of Deity is the heart of you, is the truth of you. You are as the stone within which the perfect sculpture hides. Each detail, each chore, each duty, each disturbance, each warfare chips away, pounds away, hammers away, rattles away, and aggravates away bits and pieces of detritus, of those things that are not you, gradually beginning to shape that faceted gem that lies within the details of a busy, earthly existence. How blunt are the instruments of catalyst! And yet how effective.
When one begins to become aware of this process of catalyst and experience, learning and transformation, one begins to be able to pick up some tools to use that are not as blunt as the blunt instruments of outer experience, things learned the hard way. And once again, the key to making use of these finer instruments, of removing and distilling from the self those impurities which one targets and wishes to see fall away, is the will. And each time the will is used to lift the self from that archipelago of small confusions to a place of spiritual attitude and consciousness where these details are seen as details like any other, a burden is lifted off of the attention. It is as though blinders are released from the eyes and for the first time, by asking of yourself this discipline of attention, you may begin to experience the unreasoning feelings of joy and peace of which this instrument was speaking earlier. For it is our opinion that it is this instrument’s long years of attempting to be disciplined about returning the mind to the silence from the details that has gradually enabled this instrument to find a measure of peace that does indeed pass understanding.
The Creator within you, the Truth of yourself, is happy to live your life. You have sufficient spiritual impulses within you to move through your incarnations in a state of true peace and undiluted joy. Yet it is something for which permission must be given from the self to the self. One must give oneself permission to be content and happy and blessed, for these are not things which are in the training which your culture offers its people. It is not taught among your peoples that happiness is a natural state, but rather that struggling and competition are the natural state. And each is aware of many ways in which the culture itself offers these lessons to those who are growing and in need of instruction. Always it is the spiritual sense alone that is able to release the conflicts, the struggles, those things which are the truth of the illusion, in order to turn once again to the stunning mystery of oneness, to the love that is all that you see, to the light that has created all that is, without blinking at those things which seem good and which seem evil.
The life that is lived is a work of great subtlety. There is an unlimited potential for transformation within the physical illusion and the limits are released one by one by that entity who is willing to ask of the self, “Yes, but who am I beneath that detail; yes, but who am I beneath that action? Who am I, whose am I, why am I here?” When faced with disharmony it may be a resource for you to think to yourself this thought: “Who am I? In terms of that situation that is ‘out there,’ what’s the situation with me? If I am a creature of love, then what am I doing in this situation?” To look at the situation and to react as you see it from the outside in is often less than helpful. To gaze at a situation from the inside out is to find the love within that particular structure and then to be the defender, the protector, and the expresser if need be, of that love. Whatever it is that you gaze upon, whoever is reaching out to you that asks for a reaction from you, attempt if you can to leave that situation, that relationship, that moment in a little better order than you found it, with a little more love, a little more understanding, a little more of the Creator’s freedom in the atmosphere.
In almost any situation it is easy to lose the tuning of mind which is that tuning of yourself that holds remembrance that the “I” of you is an “I” that is far more than the personality shell and that self which lives the surface life. Who is truly living your life? Infinite Consciousness would like to live your life. It is a matter of getting out of Its way.
Those who remain silent may be those who have the most wisdom. Those voices that speak the loudest in your society may well be those voices which offer the deepest confusion. Consequently we encourage your appetite for the silence. We encourage plunging into that muscular silence that is the speech of the one infinite Creator and going as deep as you can for as long as you can whenever you can. If you only have thirty seconds or two minutes, or five, you may visit the gateway to intelligent infinity. Take the time, whenever you can, to release your energy body from its very strictures to refresh it, open it up. And when you find yourself in the open heart, we greatly encourage your sitting there for awhile with that one great original Thought that is love itself. Rest in the love that lies within the heart and know that it is the truth of you, it is your deepest self. And then go forward in your armor of light, knowing that those things which are of earthly origin will express as they must and that all things that live shall die and all that passes from illusion shall once again come into being. Rest in those cycles that lie beyond sense. Rest in that mystery that lies beyond mind. Rest in the feeling that you have …
(Side one of tape ends.)
(Carla channeling)
In order for personal learning to occur and in order for you to do your service we are always happy to join you in your meditation in order to deepen that state of meditation that you may enjoy. And there are many entities in the unseen worlds which are alert to those who seek in various directions. Consequently, it is a matter of knowing that which you are and that which you believe and then asking for help from those structures within which you feel comfortable asking. This instrument would call the help angelic. Others would describe various entities of various levels of the inner planes by various technically more accurate names. Our point is simply that there is tremendous energetic help for those who have become clear as to what it is they seek, who it is that they are, and why it is that they have chosen life at this time.
Move into a feeling of as full an awareness of the self as can be had. Ask for the help that is there. And then find that courage which releases the self, in a state of complete vulnerability, to face the next moment without preconception.
We are informed by this instrument that our time with her is up and consequently, and with good grace and humor, we gladly leave this instrument and transfer this contact to the one known as Jim, that any questions remaining upon the minds of those present may be addressed. We leave this instrument in love and in light with thanks. We are those of Q’uo.
(Jim channeling)
I am Q’uo. We greet each again in love and in light through this instrument. It is our privilege at this time to ask if there may be any further queries remaining upon the minds of those present to which we may speak.
T: Yes. I have a question that continues right off of what the entire channel was about. I’ve never believed too much in entities from outside of myself influencing me, but I’m coming to believe that, in the last year or so, that due to whatever reason, I’m drawing more attention to myself. Could this just be the general upheaval which everyone is experiencing? I don’t know how far you can comment without going beyond the Law of Confusion, but please comment as to whether I am being specifically targeted or is this just a general thing that everyone’s having to deal with at this time?
I am Q’uo, and am aware of your query, my brother. As we look upon the experience which you describe we see that that experience is one which is common to many people at this time. For there is within many such as yourself the great desire to be of service in a situation which does not allow the service in the manner which you desire to give. Thus, you feel a great deal of powerlessness.
This powerlessness is full of desire to serve which has been blunted. This causes there to be a blockage of energy, shall we say, within your system of energy centers. There is a kind of fracture of the crystal that may be observed in such a situation where the energy applied by those of negative polarity to those who wish to aid but are blocked in their aid causes the fracture, a catalyst, to become apparent and to vibrate in an overactive manner and then to express as you have described. There is the need, shall we say, to examine the fracture, the catalyst, that triggers the difficulty within the meditative state. It might be well done to feel these feelings and to examine their origin. When one is more aware of the composition of the self, of the means by which energy moves through the body/mind/spirit complex, then one is less liable to suffer the intensification of difficulties that one has freely chosen. It may be well to find a positively-oriented project where one can construct a symbolic mending of the fracture within one’s energy centers. For example, there may be various small projects or items about one’s dwelling place that need repair, that need cleansing, that need attention. This can be a symbolic expression of energy that then is felt within and allows healing to occur within, therefore repairing the fracture.
Is there another query, my brother?
T: No, thank you very much.
I am Q’uo. We thank you very much. Is there another query at this time?
S: I have what I wouldn’t say is really a question but more of a statement. I notice as I go through life with family and friends around me, that sometimes I take [them] for granted, and don’t always show my appreciation and gratitude. I’d like to include you, Q’uo, and, as you say, the heavenly hosts and to express my gratitude and appreciation of [your] being there when I feel like talking to you or just knowing that you’re there, and the help and love that you’ve given. I just want to express my love and gratitude again for all that you’ve done.
I am Q’uo, and we are most filled with the same love and gratitude, my friend, that you have expressed for us. We feel this for each entity such as yourself and all those who seek to be of service in this illusion that you now inhabit for it is not an easy task to move through the darkness with but a small candle to light the way and there are many missteps in the darkness. We are happy to join any entity who asks our presence for the purpose of, as you say, listening, to blend our vibrations with your own, to perhaps offer a bit of inspiration that may aid in the movement through the daily round of activities and the many experiences of catalyst that are part of the third-density experience that each of you now inhabits.
Is there another query at this time?
S: Not for me, thanks.
J: Yeah, I have a quick question, Q’uo. Do you express yourself in other groups such as this one, in this world?
I am Q’uo, and am aware of your query, my sister. We of Q’uo are privileged to speak to this group using the verbalization technique of channeling, as you have called it, but restrict our contact with other groups or individuals to a more personalized sense of blending our vibrations with theirs. There are, however, portions of our principle, such as those of Hatonn, which do speak to other groups and have for a great many of your years. The mind-to-mind contact that produces the channeling phenomenon is one which is difficult for most to initiate and more difficult yet to maintain. So even though there have been attempts to make this kind of contact with other groups, for the most part they have been short-lived. However, we do not measure our success at service by the channeling type of contact which we now enjoy with this group, for we find it is possible to reach with our hearts in love and light to all the creation and are pleased to feel the loving response of the great majority of the creation with which we are one.
Is there another query, my sister?
J: Well, I, like S, would like to really give a heartfelt thank-you. I do feel your presence. I feel like that when I work with other people and do massage work I feel your presence. I’ve been feeling it more and more since belonging to this group. You’re a big part of love in my life and I really do appreciate that.
I am Q’uo, and we return your loving respect and pleasure of company, my sister, for it is our great joy to be able to be with each in this circle and with any entity who requests our presence, for when we tabernacle with any we tabernacle with the one Creator. Your experiences are unique to yourselves and each time we are able to blend our vibrations with yours we find new ways of expressing and experiencing love and light.
Is there a final query at this time?
(Pause)
I am Q’uo. As it appears that we have exhausted the queries for this circle of seeking, we would once again thank each present for inviting us to join you in your circle of seeking. We are always overjoyed to be able to join this group and we look, as you would say, forward to these gatherings though forward is perhaps a misnomer, for we live as one being at one time at all times. The illusion which you now inhabit is one which plays a trick, shall we say, in order that you may do a certain dance, make a certain choice, give of yourself in love and move one step further in your union with the All.
At this time we shall take our leave of this instrument and this group. We leave each, as always, in the love and in the light of the one infinite Creator. We are known to you as those of Q’uo. Adonai, my friends.
RE: My Awakening. Or Grand Delusion. You Choose. - Tenet Nosce - 09-21-2011
(09-15-2011, 01:56 PM)yossarian Wrote: DW is running on the theory that anything that causes fear in his readers strengthens the Illuminati/evil entities. So he is trying to awaken people to new realities without causing fear, and this is why he leaves out all the terrifying stuff about human sacrifices and 5D entities feeding off our soul energy. At least, this is his public rationale.
Yes, I agree this is his public rationale. The potential issue here is it seems like the same sort of reasoning L/L went through with originally deciding to not talk about the Book V material. For better or worse, there was a judgement made to leave certain elements out at first.
I can't help but notice this sounds like the same sort of logic that has been used for ages upon ages to justify keeping secrets. Who gets to decide what humanity is "ready" for? I suggest we are ready for the whole truth, and not certain bits and pieces so as "not to make us fearful".
So I see the logic behind it... I just happen to disagree. It seems like lying by omission to me.
Yossarian Wrote:He doesn't claim that all aliens look like humans but rather that the majority of those visiting us look like humans, and that the good aliens are stronger than the evil ones, and the evil ones have no chance in winning.
OK so I went and looked at DW's Blog on the days before my first post here on 28 May 10. I found this:
2012 Event Horizon -- Official YouTube Launch!
David Wilcock Wrote:Project Camelot whistleblowers reveal that extraterrestrials look human like us and may even be time travelers from our future! Edgar Cayce and the Law of One reveal we have a Higher Self leading us through reincarnation and Graduation.
I recall that he goes on and on at a certain point in this video about how almost all the ETs look like us. But you have made a subtle distinction here and perhaps he said that most of the ones here on earth look like us.
You may have caught an error in my perception here. I do know that there were several things put forth in these videos- specifically the "100x more harmonius by 2012" part that- were part of why I started posting here.
I had posted some things on DW's forum, and I felt the environment there was overly coddled by the moderators and was not really open to critical evaluation. This was actually quite a surprise to me. Up until that point I had considered David to be an excellent critical thinker. I actually had two readings with Ra through him years ago that were very insightful. I am a "fan" of his work.
At the time, I was unaware of the blowout which occurred leading to the above post from David Wilcock being archived. Again, had I not been searching for "don elkins suicide" this past summer, I would not have come across any of this. I noticed it first, and stumbled upon the explanation later.
But something seemed to take a shift there in 2009/2010 and it was when he was really involved with Project Camelot and talking to all the "insiders". It was go, go, go with no rest. He was receiving a lot of criticism from his own supporters at the time for trusting the "insiders" too much. And he defended himself by claiming his guidance system to basically be infallible. It is all right there in his blogs posts if anybody cares to look.
So that is what drove me back to the Ra material. I wanted to take a look again at what it actually said. And so the Bring4th chapter of Tenet Nosce began...
Yossarian Wrote:I guess your theory that you're hinting at is that DW was totally possessed and compromised back when he did foolish things like sleep on the Ra Bed and channel Ra while totally alone. And now he is arguing for complacency to de-fang any who would challenge the powers that be. Get people to believe they are already saved and those people will not fight back, right?
Close. I don't know if I would go so far as to say "totally possessed". Influenced. He says so himself. And we know that Don was somewhat obsessed with the "earth changes". Particularly earthquakes. I have actually now found a session PRIOR to the Ra contact where Hatonn is actually making a joke to the group about Don's dwelling on earthquakes when he wasn't even there. I quoted from this in TN'S PLAYGROUND for anybody who wants to see it.
David sleeps in the bed. Picks up on the negative vibes... even possibly the 5D entity is lurking around. In any case he gets freaked out by the possibility. Thinks he is under attack. Declares it on the Ascension2000 forum. And off to the races from there. This is all in what I copy and pasted. I am not really conjecturing with this, it is in his own words.
So all the while, his mind is fixated on the "earth changes" as was Don's. Being a public figure and seeing the chaos unfold, he did some very deep seeking into the heart of this. And it seemed he was really getting some great dream stuff about how "All is Well" and that things were actually going to turn out for the positive.
But still the "earth changes" continued, and people wanted to know if this was "the end". Around this time David starts interviewing the "insiders". He gets tossed some really good bones. He is intrigued. Goes deeper. But then things start to change.
Yossarian Wrote:And now he is arguing for complacency to de-fang any who would challenge the powers that be.
Not exactly. But there has been a distinct change in the flavor of the message. Where before he was talking about how things were going to miraculously turn out right, he emerged from these interviews with the BIG ANNOUNCEMENT!! DISCLOSURE IS COMING!!! OCTOBER SURPRISE!!! Get excited everybody! You are on the "inside" with me so you get a sneak preview of what is to come *wink wink*.
All of a sudden... the "aliens" were all good guys coming to give earth all sorts of technology. We were told that things were getting worked out "behind the scenes" to make the announcement. Then nothing happened. Then, instead of going back and looking to see where he was led astray in his thinking- he has gone forward full steam. No sooner does his book come out but he is pounding DISCLOSURE again.
Quote:Get people to believe they are already saved and those people will not fight back, right?
Kind of. More like get people to believe that they NEED to be saved. We don't NEED the aliens to give us technology in order to "ward off" the earth changes. We don't even need ANY technology in order to do this.
And his own work proves just this. That is the point. That is also the "problem".
Quote:Also I guess that David is setting us all up for a fake alien saviour event that is just another Illuminati deception.
Well, according to some of his more recent posts- David seems to be priming people for contact with those of "Hatonn".
Tenet Nosce Wrote:Personally there are some questions that I believe I am incapable of answering.
You may or may not be. The primary question, as I see it, is how can we know if "Hatonn" is the same "Hatonn" that was contacted by a group in SE Michigan in the 50's- the lineage of which was passed down through L/L and is now also being contacted via Matthew by Suzy Ward.
If so... why is it that Hatonn has been basically talking about landing space ships on the White House lawn this whole time, meanwhile L/L has moved on to Q'uo- who makes no such predictions. I don't get the same sense of "urgency" from Q'uo as I get from Hatonn regarding this.
Yossarian Wrote:There is no simple method to test this hypothesis.
Time will tell. There is likely some piece of information I am lacking, the acquiring of which will lead me to conclude that all is well.
RE: My Awakening. Or Grand Delusion. You Choose. - Namaste - 09-21-2011
I have also noticed that DWs predictions have not happened yet, but, I think he's an optimist, and that flavours his outlook. Reading the future is impossible, it only represents the 'vortices' (probabilities) at that particular moment. They do change.
Regarding ETs being similar to us - Ra's quote on estimates may include knowledge of the entire Creation...
Quote:81.23 Questioner: It’s unimportant, but how many other of these galaxies has Ra traveled to?
Ra: I am Ra. We have opened our hearts in radiation of love to the entire creation. Approximately 90 percent of the creation is at some level aware of the sending and able to reply. All of the infinite Logoi are one in the consciousness of love. This is the type of contact which we enjoy rather than travel.
Quote:81.27 Questioner: Does Ra have knowledge of any other major galaxy or the consciousness of anything in that galaxy?
Ra: I am Ra. We assume you are speaking of the possibility of knowledge of other major galaxies. There are Wanderers from other major galaxies drawn to the specific needs of a single call. There are those among our social memory complex which have become Wanderers in other major galaxies. Thus there has been knowledge of other major galaxies, for to one whose personality or mind/body/spirit complex has been crystallized the universe is one place and there is no bar upon travel.
RE: My Awakening. Or Grand Delusion. You Choose. - JeiaRaManuk - 09-25-2011
Loving the Ra quote!! First time having a child on planet Earth myself
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