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RE: Sexual Revolution - Ankh - 04-14-2011
abridgetoofar, thank you for sharing, my brother! Although I wish to add that feeling of void inside the self is not always filled by other self in the relationship, even if that other self is a most loving person. You can still feel empty and alone even being in the most perfect relationship. That's how I felt for a long time... til... ta-taaam! I found Ra!
(04-14-2011, 12:57 AM)abridgetoofar Wrote: I honestly believe that my sexless life has led me to a very open understanding about sex and relationships, and I can't see my lonely experience to this point doing anything but serving me in the future.
Now that you've reached that conclusion - get out and make it manifest, my brother!
RE: Sexual Revolution - Bring4th_Austin - 04-14-2011
(04-14-2011, 02:18 AM)Derek ~ Wrote: abridgetoofar - My story in regards to sex and all of the life experience conclusions mirror yours. We have very much lived the same life..you're not alone brother! I too perpetually ran into stumbling blocks that I can only come to the conclusion were for preincarnative reasons. It only crystallized my direction of seeking. I have had my fun now, but I know what I want. I don't think there is a void to fill, but would word it as having to learn how to accept myself and know that I am perfect. People naturally want to feel validated and accepted, but it is necessary to learn to love and accept yourself as being perfect. Great story..thanks for sharing!
Thank you! I think that's a very important point. A lot of people don't feel complete unless they're in a relationship, but what does that say about their relationship with themselves?
(04-14-2011, 04:45 AM)Ankh Wrote: abridgetoofar, thank you for sharing, my brother! Although I wish to add that feeling of void inside the self is not always filled by other self in the relationship, even if that other self is a most loving person. You can still feel empty and alone even being in the most perfect relationship. That's how I felt for a long time... til... ta-taaam! I found Ra!
(04-14-2011, 12:57 AM)abridgetoofar Wrote: I honestly believe that my sexless life has led me to a very open understanding about sex and relationships, and I can't see my lonely experience to this point doing anything but serving me in the future.
Now that you've reached that conclusion - get out and make it manifest, my brother!
Thank you! Of course, the void only seems to be filled by being in a relationship, and having the love and attention of another can be a nice distraction from having to look deep inside yourself and accept what you see. Now that I've spent so much time alone in self-reflection, when the time comes, I can put it all out on the table without insecurity or worry.
Also, for me as well, Ra and L/L Research definitely help me understand life and allowed me to fill the void for myself. Thank you Ra, Don, Carla, and Jim!
RE: Sexual Revolution - 3DMonkey - 04-14-2011
Abridgetoofar,
In addition to your understanding of Preincarnate planning, I think you should explore your choice in partner. Well, really, explore why and where you typically see your place within a partnership. You chose girls that weren't explorers, for lack of a better description. Why? What was your perceived role in such a relationship? I think there is carry over from before incarnation, but you can't find what that is unless you explore it. A number of possibilities- fear of something, karmic obligation from previous life of abusing women, a previous life of protecting abused women, etc. It can go on and on. I only suggest you explore yourself and your suggestions.
On a completely different note, how do you feel about homosexuality?
RE: Sexual Revolution - Brittany - 04-14-2011
Abridgetoofar, your perspective is so refreshing! I think it's wonderful that you've put so much thought into what you want out of a sexual relationship, enough to abstain if it doesn't feel like it's for the right reason. Most of the guys I know turn into sex zombies if they go a week without it. It becomes all they can talk about, and they'll start hurling themselves at anyone they think they might have a chance with, because they pursue sex in a compulsive fashion. Even seekers who understand the spiritual principles behind sex will often feel that going too long without it is going to put them into some kind of hole.
I'm not trying to bash men here. I've known women who were just as bad. I'm just relaying my experiences, and hearing you say the things you have gives me tremendous respect for you. I think that once you find what you are looking for, it is going to be very awesome for you!
I've only had sex with one person, though I certainly explored sexual feelings before that. Like you, we just never went all the way. Then when I met my husband we had sex on our first date. It seems foolish, especially since I had turned down other opportunities out of the desire to wait for something meaningful instead of compulsive physical gratification, but when we met we instantly connected on the blue ray level. It really was love at first sight, and has only grown stronger every day since. It seems like we MUST have known each other before this incarnation, to immediately jump into such an intimate, open relationship It seems like when the time was right, a huge magnet just pulled us together.
At times I've regretted sealing myself into having sex with only one person. If anything,the curiosity can drive me mad sometimes. However, I don't think I'm capable of "casual sex." I couldn't just have a fling with a person then go back to my life like it didn't happen. Well, I'm sure I could, but I would be miserable. I've certainly fantasized about it, but I don't think I'm capable of having sex without forming attachment. Sex is one part of the whole in a meaningful relationship to me. Without the relationship behind it, it seems disjointed.
Now, if you had a whole group of people who were all very close to each other, very connected, I could easily conceive of them having an open sexual situation (this seems to be how Ra went about it). However, society has dumped so many preconceived stereotypes on us that I think this would be hard to achieve without severe distortion on this planet at this time. This idea that marriage or even just a solid relationship = ownership has been driven into our heads for centuries on end...it's going to take some serious effort to overcome those programmed biases as a people in general.
Walt and I have taken very small steps in releasing this ownership concept, but he has a hard time understanding how having sex with someone else wouldn't mean there was less love for him. And as much as I'd like to say I'm all open minded and wouldn't care if he loved other women along with me, I would. It would bother me. But we've spent long hours discussing the concepts behind free love, and I'd say we're taking baby steps at least.
RE: Sexual Revolution - Bring4th_Austin - 04-14-2011
(04-14-2011, 09:34 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: Abridgetoofar,
In addition to your understanding of Preincarnate planning, I think you should explore your choice in partner. Well, really, explore why and where you typically see your place within a partnership. You chose girls that weren't explorers, for lack of a better description. Why? What was your perceived role in such a relationship? I think there is carry over from before incarnation, but you can't find what that is unless you explore it. A number of possibilities- fear of something, karmic obligation from previous life of abusing women, a previous life of protecting abused women, etc. It can go on and on. I only suggest you explore yourself and your suggestions.
On a completely different note, how do you feel about homosexuality?
As far as the nature of the relationships I did have, I feel like while they themselves weren't necessarily preincarnative planning, I was offered the experience because they fell within the preincarnative agreements. They were not necessarily "non-explorers," as the sexual side of both relationships was healthy and active. It simply didn't allow me to understand the nature of sex, mainly in a spiritual sense. They were also typical teenage romances...innocent and fun, and an outlet for hormonal and sexual curiosity. They were exclusive and dedicated, but I don't imagine they were anything like a normal partnership I'd expect to find in an adult relationship.
Karmic obligation? Possibly...I, as this physical personality, couldn't imagine being abusive to anyone or anything, including women specifically, but who knows the troubles I had during previous 3D experiences? I've never dove into my past lives because I think it's important to concentrate on this incarnation. If it was karmic obligation, I think I did well to alleviate the karma, because I was very respectful of their decisions and didn't pressure them at all into doing something they didn't want to.
I have not contemplated this during meditation though, so thank you my friend for the idea. It will be good food for contemplation.
As for homosexuality, I hardly even view it as anything different from heterosexuality. As we are elevated from our primal instincts, we realize that sexual relationships are much more energetic than physical. Thus, if two energies are sexually compatible, it shouldn't matter whether they're a woman or a man.
I myself feel I am one of those wired very much heterosexual, though I came into this world and I still am fairly androgynous. I try to hold a good balance of feminine and masculine energy, however I just can't be sexually aroused by another man. Never had a fantasy, vision, or dream of homosexual nature. However, and I am definitely not directing this at the discussions being had here, I feel discussing homosexual love as different from heterosexual love creates separation. Love is love, and I dream of an Earth one day where no one is afraid to express their love however they desire.
(04-14-2011, 10:12 AM)ahktu Wrote: Abridgetoofar, your perspective is so refreshing! I think it's wonderful that you've put so much thought into what you want out of a sexual relationship, enough to abstain if it doesn't feel like it's for the right reason. Most of the guys I know turn into sex zombies if they go a week without it. It becomes all they can talk about, and they'll start hurling themselves at anyone they think they might have a chance with, because they pursue sex in a compulsive fashion. Even seekers who understand the spiritual principles behind sex will often feel that going too long without it is going to put them into some kind of hole.
I'm not trying to bash men here. I've known women who were just as bad. I'm just relaying my experiences, and hearing you say the things you have gives me tremendous respect for you. I think that once you find what you are looking for, it is going to be very awesome for you!
I too hold this stereotype of men, I guess because most of my male friends act exactly as you described.
I really appreciate your kind words
They help me continue to carry the positive attitude onward in my life regarding my past experiences, and for this I thank you greatly.Quote:I've only had sex with one person, though I certainly explored sexual feelings before that. Like you, we just never went all the way. Then when I met my husband we had sex on our first date. It seems foolish, especially since I had turned down other opportunities out of the desire to wait for something meaningful instead of compulsive physical gratification, but when we met we instantly connected on the blue ray level. It really was love at first sight, and has only grown stronger every day since. It seems like we MUST have known each other before this incarnation, to immediately jump into such an intimate, open relationship It seems like when the time was right, a huge magnet just pulled us together.
It definitely sounds like your relationship was divinely planned. Obviously, having sex on the first date turned out to not be a mistake! It's awesome you knew so soon that there was a strong connection there.
Quote:At times I've regretted sealing myself into having sex with only one person. If anything,the curiosity can drive me mad sometimes.
I've definitely felt the curiosity you speak about. It's another thing that my experience has allowed me to temper. Of course, my curiosity about sex persists as it does with all things in life, but it does not burn inside of me any more.
Quote:However, I don't think I'm capable of "casual sex." I couldn't just have a fling with a person then go back to my life like it didn't happen. Well, I'm sure I could, but I would be miserable. I've certainly fantasized about it, but I don't think I'm capable of having sex without forming attachment. Sex is one part of the whole in a meaningful relationship to me. Without the relationship behind it, it seems disjointed.
Now, if you had a whole group of people who were all very close to each other, very connected, I could easily conceive of them having an open sexual situation (this seems to be how Ra went about it). However, society has dumped so many preconceived stereotypes on us that I think this would be hard to achieve without severe distortion on this planet at this time. This idea that marriage or even just a solid relationship = ownership has been driven into our heads for centuries on end...it's going to take some serious effort to overcome those programmed biases as a people in general.
We share these thoughts about casual sex. Indeed there is a big difference from meaningless, casual sex (which usually seems to step from lower blockages), and being sexually open.
Quote:Walt and I have taken very small steps in releasing this ownership concept, but he has a hard time understanding how having sex with someone else wouldn't mean there was less love for him. And as much as I'd like to say I'm all open minded and wouldn't care if he loved other women along with me, I would. It would bother me. But we've spent long hours discussing the concepts behind free love, and I'd say we're taking baby steps at least.
Simply discussing these things, in my eyes, is a huge step. Perhaps it is the only step you need to take in this lifetime? It will be a gradual thing for society, and it starts with simple discussions. Just by discussing it you are creating energy, and possibility for change.
We can enter into relationships with agreements, because restrictions add to unique experience (that's why 3D is so restrictive it seems!). If you're happy being with one person, and they are happy being with just you, then that is as healthy to me as an open relationship. It's when we feel like we have to bury or hide our feelings or actions from our partner that I think it becomes unhealthy.
I never understood the aspect of "cheating"...if you don't want to be dedicated to just one person, why say that you do? You are lying to yourself and your partner.
Thank you ahktu, for your kind words and insight. I am inspired by your relationship with Walt, and it makes me happy to see such healthy communication and interaction in a relationship.
RE: Sexual Revolution - 3DMonkey - 04-14-2011
Abridge, I was just wondering if you were open to homosex. You seem open.
Typical teenage. Ha! "confused" is the word.
I had many partners during teenage years. I could have had many more if I had realized that girls want it as much as guys, only they require a private "setting". I thought they wanted chivalry.... Ha! What a joke.
Honestly, it is impolite of me, but I second guess your view of the two persons you dated. I imagine they have secrets unknown to you. I would also be very interested in where their lives carried to after you. Personally, I found the most "pure" girls to be the most "free" girls in private.
This is more about experience for you though, isn't it? Well, the true spiritual nature of sex didn't reach my awareness until I found a woman who accepts me for all of me, my wife. It's really not there in all the dating stuff. I question if it's there with "free love." Honestly, it's difficult to actually remember the times before devotional companionship. It's easier for the experienced crowd to speak slightly about sex. We forget.
If anyone is wondering why I placed my spiritual experience on my wife's full acceptance of me... What is the most attractive thing to promote my giving fully of myself to an other, other than for the other to accept me fully, and vice versa?
RE: Sexual Revolution - Bring4th_Austin - 04-14-2011
(04-14-2011, 12:51 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: Abridge, I was just wondering if you were open to homosex. You seem open.
I am very open, and if I found myself attracted to a male, it wouldn't be a question for me. It hasn't happened yet though!
Quote:Honestly, it is impolite of me, but I second guess your view of the two persons you dated. I imagine they have secrets unknown to you. I would also be very interested in where their lives carried to after you. Personally, I found the most "pure" girls to be the most "free" girls in private.
It is not impolite, I'm open to others' suggestions or view on my own experiences or opinions. Like I said, it isn't something I've contemplated in silent meditation though, I'm interested to see what comes up.
I am in touch with both of these girls still, and one is a very good friend of mine. I understand why you might think they have secrets...and it's very possible of the second one, the one who isn't such a close friend any more. But my first real girlfriend, I can assure, was "promiscuous" in and outside of our relationship, and it was in honor of her mother's wishes that she was waiting until marriage to have sex. She eventually decided that waiting until marriage wasn't the best idea, after we had broken up.
Quote:This is more about experience for you though, isn't it? Well, the true spiritual nature of sex didn't reach my awareness until I found a woman who accepts me for all of me, my wife. It's really not there in all the dating stuff. I question if it's there with "free love." Honestly, it's difficult to actually remember the times before devotional companionship. It's easier for the experienced crowd to speak slightly about sex. We forget.
It is about experience for sure, but I feel the preincarnative agreements are in place to allow me to formulate unbiased opinions on sex and relationships. Because of my lack of experience, it was very easy for me to let go of the notion that sex or relationships have to be a certain way or a certain thing.
In my most recent contemplations on whether or not I am a dual body individual, it seems like these agreements allowed me to bring forth a more 4D understanding of relationships without interference from 3D ideas of sex and relationships. I will now be able to bring these concept into my reality without having to let go of anything, which is refreshing.
Quote:If anyone is wondering why I placed my spiritual experience on my wife's full acceptance of me... What is the most attractive thing to promote my giving fully of myself to an other, other than for the other to accept me fully, and vice versa?
I can only imagine that finding this connection is what brings a lot of people into spirituality. The term "soul mates" is thrown around a lot, even by non-spiritual people. I don't doubt that an other-selve's full acceptance is a very common catalyst for full acceptance of self in many. It's a beautiful thing, and my heart warms just thinking about it. I'm very happy for you and your wife and I am glad that your children have such parents to care for them.
RE: Sexual Revolution - 3DMonkey - 04-14-2011
Aw. ( water eyes ).
RE: Sexual Revolution - Monica - 04-14-2011
(04-14-2011, 12:51 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: If anyone is wondering why I placed my spiritual experience on my wife's full acceptance of me... What is the most attractive thing to promote my giving fully of myself to an other, other than for the other to accept me fully, and vice versa?
Exactly!
And how could there be full acceptance with someone we don't even know?
RE: Sexual Revolution - Brittany - 04-14-2011
It's funny, but as we've been talking about all this stuff a situation has popped up for me.
My husband and one of my friends have been tossing around the idea of having a threesome. My friend is in an open relationship with her boyfriend- they claim no ownership over each other- and she says he might even want to join in. As much as I promote the idea of free love, when presented with the opportunity I feel strange. We've all been very honest about it with each other...no secrets or tiptoeing around, and at this point I've had to just say "I don't know."
On one hand, I would love to be able to practice this principle of openness with my husband and a friend I cherish. On the other, I don't think I've ever heard of anyone having a threesome where it turned out well for everyone. It seems like there's always some sort of awkward complication and friendships get ruined over it. I honestly don't know what I think/feel about it right now. Neither of them are putting pressure on me to hurry up and decide, and both respect my feelings, so it's not like I feel like I have to go ahead and say yes just so they won't be mad.
What are opinions here on threesomes? I do hope this isn't coming off as vulgar...I'll admit I still feel a wee bit embarrassed talking openly amongst you guys about something so personal, even though I'm the one who started the thread.
RE: Sexual Revolution - Eddie - 04-14-2011
(04-14-2011, 07:48 PM)ahktu Wrote: What are opinions here on threesomes? I do hope this isn't coming off as vulgar...I'll admit I still feel a wee bit embarrassed talking openly amongst you guys about something so personal, even though I'm the one who started the thread.
Make a pact with all involved to postpone the matter until all of you have passed your 40th birthday. You will have perspective then that you do not have now.
RE: Sexual Revolution - Ocean - 04-14-2011
i think you shouldn't do it if you don't feel comfortable with it. what bothers you about it, jealousy?
RE: Sexual Revolution - 3DMonkey - 04-14-2011
Threesome are a never for me. The thought makes me sick to my stomach. Aside from that, the real reason I couldn't is because I need the intimacy for arousal. I honestly don't think I could perform. Also, yes, jealousy big time. It's not in my cards. It's simply not.
Like you, ahktu, have known that you've never been very interested in having children. I know that children have been a driving force in me forever. If there is one thing I do know, it is that my purpose is to be a father. Sidetracked. ... Likewise, I have always been the type to take any relationship seriously to marriage ( in my mind anyway ). Some of you may have dated that type and been totally annoyed by it. I understand that. My wife turned out to be the very same way. It is just not in us to even consider a three way. Not attractive at all.
We do enjoy joking on the matter though. You know the goofy "top five celebrity list" of people you are "allowed" to sleep with given the chance? Well we have a third list of people we would agree on a three way with (men and women). It's all for humor of course, but everytime, I insist that I am the "meat" of the sandwhich.
RE: Sexual Revolution - unity100 - 04-14-2011
(04-14-2011, 01:34 PM)abridgetoofar Wrote: I am very open, and if I found myself attracted to a male, it wouldn't be a question for me. It hasn't happened yet though!
albeit this is a good attitude in regard to balancing, i would advise that you do not undertake this act in space/time, even if such a situation occurs.
ra advises use of imagination for any act that is not compatible with your current situation or incompatible with your current path.
RE: Sexual Revolution - 3DMonkey - 04-14-2011
I prefer imagination too
RE: Sexual Revolution - Brittany - 04-14-2011
(04-14-2011, 09:02 PM)Ocean Wrote: i think you shouldn't do it if you don't feel comfortable with it. what bothers you about it, jealousy?
I don't think it's so much jealousy as just the feeling that things might not be the same afterward. Like there would be this big awkward white elephant in the middle of the friendship after doing something like that. I mean, is it one of those things you do and then you're not supposed to speak of it afterward? Like Fight Club? Plus I've heard in those situations a lot of times one party ends up feeling like a third wheel.
The fact that she has a relationship of her own makes me a bit more open to it...I don't think she is trying to come between Walter and I in her own search for a mate...it's more just that we all seem open to the experience.
However, I think I need more time before I come up with any concrete answer. I know it would be several months before it could even happen anyway, so I've got time to ponder all the pros and cons.
RE: Sexual Revolution - Monica - 04-14-2011
(04-14-2011, 10:11 PM)ahktu Wrote: I've got time to ponder all the pros and cons.
What is a pro in this case?
RE: Sexual Revolution - 3DMonkey - 04-14-2011
I've said my peace, but I got another thing.
I don't plan anything. And the thought of planning sex.... Sucks it right out of me.
My mentality is act now or forget about it.
Also, don't pretend you aren't jealous if you are. That will only darken the matter.
RE: Sexual Revolution - unity100 - 04-14-2011
(04-14-2011, 10:11 PM)ahktu Wrote:(04-14-2011, 09:02 PM)Ocean Wrote: i think you shouldn't do it if you don't feel comfortable with it. what bothers you about it, jealousy?
I don't think it's so much jealousy as just the feeling that things might not be the same afterward. Like there would be this big awkward white elephant in the middle of the friendship after doing something like that. I mean, is it one of those things you do and then you're not supposed to speak of it afterward? Like Fight Club? Plus I've heard in those situations a lot of times one party ends up feeling like a third wheel.
if you are having problems with a 'big elephant' in the middle of friendship, 'supposed to not speak about it afterwards', this, that, it means there are things that need to be done regarding 3, 4 and 5th chakras for both, before engaging in that sexual situation.
RE: Sexual Revolution - 3DMonkey - 04-14-2011
I recall a tv show of a real brothel*. A couple is thinking about a three way, so they go in and begin just by seeing how the wife feels watching her husband with the woman as they are fully clothed. .... She couldn't do it.
RE: Sexual Revolution - Ocean - 04-15-2011
lol you mean when Tyler told Corney to not talk about him to Marla?
RE: Sexual Revolution - Brittany - 04-15-2011
It's looking like the opportunity has been put on hold indefinitely, anyway. Too many personal issues amongst all parties. Thanks for the opinions, guys. This is all really new to me.
RE: Sexual Revolution - Ankh - 04-15-2011
Ahktu, I am glad that you shared this experience so openly. I hope that you can understand my incoherent babble here, as this is very difficult to express.
All my life I have been "falling in love" when I saw a beautiful being inside of another self. (I am not talking about unconditional love that accepts and sees all.) I always thought that it was pain in the a$$, because I could switch the object of that affection over a day, or worse, just by looking at someone else. During my current very long relationship I don't know how many times I dreamt of someone else, and thought that I "fell in love".
Today I (think that I) understand what it is about. In first posts of this thread, we simultaneously wrote similar things - we want to merge with beings, with things... And now that I understand who and what I am (more than before anyway), I see that what we want to do is fusion. All my life I confused it with physical sex and "love", and maybe at some point it is. What it is about, and this is very difficult to put in words, is to inhale the essence of the other self and merge with the core in order to completely to get to know that other self within the seconds. That coalescence has also extremly intense positive "side effects" that can be liken to an explotion - that go far beyond the physical orgasm as we know it here. When I see an entity that "speaks" to my inner self I feel how this entity's sparke attracts me as a magnet. I want to get inside of that self and drink the whole essence. But it is more to it than I can put in words. Anyway, all my life I confused it with sex and transient "fall in love" emotions, thinking that it is something wrong with me, that I am too over-sexualised or something, but being in a relationship sex did not give me satisfaction. When, at least in my case, it all comes down to me not understanding myself.
I still suffer from not being able to walk up to any entity that I feel magnetized to and at least, touch, smell (taste?
) It. But it is how it works here. We are not home and have to adopt to "Earth conditions". These conditions are different, and so is our human individual mind and the group consciousness of the society we live in. Yes we came here to add love and light, and hippie generation tried it very hard. They are a good example of free love, peace and small communities of trying to share everything. Unfortunatly, very, very few of those ideals, if any, survived. Earth is hard on our ideals. I am also pro free love, and free share and non ownership - but I honestly don't know if it works upon this planet at current time. Not even with two so open minded souls like you and Walter. I almost think that it would be somehow better if you tried that idea with someone who is not your friend (in order to not ruin the friendship), so that you and Walter would know, but then again, it has to be someone that you feel magnetized to, right? I am not sure either, if this what we want to achieve can be achieved at all. If it is possible, can it then be done with others, and not only one? As one is indeed kind of limitary. Not that I do not love my partner, I love him very much, but there are others that is just as bright and sparkling as he is. At this point I am not sure if this is about 2-3 lower nexis at all. On the other hand, we have to work very hard for this merging to occur, so it might as well be about those nexis. This kind of brings Ra's words into my mind, where they said something about being frustrated about things that were easy in the home density did not work here. We might "remember" the simplicity and intensity and the very true nature of merging/fusion, but as I said - we are not home where it can be done that easy. Here, we have to reaaally work for it, if it can be done at all. But whom am I to know such things? I really hope that you continue to share though on how things are proceeding for you two in this matter... L/L
RE: Sexual Revolution - Monica - 04-15-2011
(04-14-2011, 10:11 PM)ahktu Wrote: I don't think it's so much jealousy as just the feeling that things might not be the same afterward. Like there would be this big awkward white elephant in the middle of the friendship after doing something like that.
That could be a clue!
(04-14-2011, 10:11 PM)ahktu Wrote: I mean, is it one of those things you do and then you're not supposed to speak of it afterward?
A friend once asked me how to know whether he has found his 'true love.' He was contemplating marriage but wasn't sure if he wanted to spend his life with this woman. I told him that when my husband and I decided to get married, we didn't need to ask anyone for their opinion. There was never any doubt in our minds! Furthermore, there was no way either of us could have tolerated being apart. We would have done whatever was necessary to be together.
Likewise, it seems to me that if the proposed threesome is spiritually and emotionally healthy for all involved, then there would be no need to seek opinions.
I'm in a monogamous marriage and have no interest in what you describe. The people I've known who have tried threesomes and open marriages all ended up in divorce. It's not my place to judge, and as a strong proponent of marriage as a sacred path, I admit I have a bias against such things. I'm just saying that's what I've observed. But it seems to me that, if all parties are open enough and balanced enough to participate in a sexual act that is, apparently, common in the higher densities but not commonly done here in 3D, then they wouldn't have to ask for any opinions.
If there is doubt, hence the asking of opinions, then I would advise against the action, because it seems to me that doubt indicates a red flag. If there is concern about whether to talk of the action afterwards, then that indicates the chakras aren't open, because if they were, then you'd be able to discuss it freely.
If you can't discuss such an intimate act freely with the person you did it with, then what does that say? It seems to me that says it occurred on the lower chakras only.
Which then leads to the question: What is to be gained? Is it a lower chakra exercise only? Is it worth potentially jeopardizing the closeness you now enjoy with your husband?
(04-15-2011, 06:00 PM)ahktu Wrote: It's looking like the opportunity has been put on hold indefinitely, anyway. Too many personal issues amongst all parties. Thanks for the opinions, guys. This is all really new to me.
I already posted my last comment, before I read this. So you might no longer be interested in my opinion, but I'll leave it anyway in case anyone else finds it of value.
RE: Sexual Revolution - 3DMonkey - 04-15-2011
(04-15-2011, 06:08 PM)Ankh Wrote: I see that what we want to do is fusion.
Excellent!
RE: Sexual Revolution - Monica - 04-15-2011
(04-15-2011, 06:08 PM)Ankh Wrote: I am not sure either, if this what we want to achieve can be achieved at all. If it is possible, can it then be done with others, and not only one?
It's usually a lifelong (or multiple lifetimes!) task to achieve it with just 1 person.
RE: Sexual Revolution - Brittany - 04-16-2011
Ankh, once again you have described beautifully what I have been unable to put into words. You really are good at expressing abstract concepts with words! Do you do a lot of writing, by chance?
I know exactly what you mean, when you want to experience someone for all that they are, just from looking at them. The moment a person learns to perceive a person's vibration and colors, I think this shoots through the roof. You're then able to *feel* it when you resonate with someone, even if you've never met them. It lets me make friends easily, but at times it is frustrating because it is like the two vibrations are entraining, being drawn toward each other, and yet it would be unbearably awkward in most cases to walk up to a stranger you resonated with and attempt to experience their energy.
I've learned (is learned the right term? I'm pretty much just able to do it) how to 'inhale' the energy of a person, even from a distance, but I haven't worked out enough of the kinks to be able to do it without simply draining the person of energy like a vampire. I'm not as adept at sending my own energy and having a thorough exchange, but I've gotten better practicing with Walter. At times one of us will sap the other's energy without even meaning to, but I've also been able to channel my energy into him when he was having a seizure and cause his muscles to relax. And he is my battery when I channel, though he always ends up falling asleep from it. :p
Sometimes it can be so frustrating how our brains just seem wired for sex. Every time I get these longings and these desires to exchange energy, my mind automatically perceives it as sexual arousal, even if I'm looking at a tree. I mean, sex is great and everything, but it can cause a lot of complications when you seek it out, trying to fill a need, and that need isn't even sex. Yet sometimes it seems that sex is as close as we're allowed to get, which is also frustrating. Does any of this even make any sense?
RE: Sexual Revolution - 3DMonkey - 04-16-2011
Bubblegum.
RE: Sexual Revolution - Confused - 04-16-2011
(04-15-2011, 06:08 PM)Ankh Wrote: ...I see that what we want to do is fusion. All my life I confused it with physical sex and "love"...
Ankh, Ra repeatedly said in the LOO that the body is a creature of the mind. I think your urge to experience (or to express intimacy for) 'others' physically, is a bodily extension of what you feel in your mind - ONENESS.
Since the day you mentioned about your orgasmic feeling on beholding the being in the branch, I have been following your posts closely for clues. It does appear to me that you are working from high chakric levels very frequently, even probably touching violet more times than most other people. I think, as a result, what you are mentally feeling is the sacredness/presence of ONE in all of creation, and the ONE in you wants to integrate itself consciously with all its other pieces around.
And you, being an entity of 3D, are experiencing it as sensations or longings of the body, I think. As the famous Hermetic saying goes - "The All is mind; the Universe is mental".
And your mental frequency is starting to deeply approach conscious oneness with all life and the sacramental nature of infinite creation. This is my subjective opinion.
RE: Sexual Revolution - 3DMonkey - 04-16-2011
(04-16-2011, 09:22 AM)Confused Wrote:(04-15-2011, 06:08 PM)Ankh Wrote: ...I see that what we want to do is fusion. All my life I confused it with physical sex and "love"...
Ankh, Ra repeatedly said in the LOO that the body is a creature of the mind. I think your urge to experience (or to express intimacy for) 'others' physically, is a bodily extension of what you feel in your mind - ONENESS.
Since the day you mentioned about your orgasmic feeling on beholding the being in the branch, I have been following your posts closely for clues. It does appear to me that you are working from high chakric levels very frequently, even probably touching violet more times than most other people. I think, as a result, what you are mentally feeling is the sacredness/presence of ONE in all of creation, and the ONE in you wants to integrate itself consciously with all its other pieces around.
And you, being an entity of 3D, are experiencing it as sensations or longings of the body, I think. As the famous Hermetic saying goes - "The All is mind; the Universe is mental".
And your mental frequency is starting to deeply approach conscious oneness with all life and the sacramental nature of infinite creation. This is my subjective opinion.
That's what I meant by "excellent"
You didn't get that?