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RE: Contentions about 'Polarity' - Minyatur - 02-03-2016
(02-03-2016, 09:48 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: Thank you for that. I was wondering if my posts are somehow intrusive or redundant.
I always thought your posts make my train of thought shift to focuses I was not considering. Ever helpful.
I hail the alpha gemini with about 4 times my posts!
RE: Contentions about 'Polarity' - Night Owl - 02-03-2016
Geminiwolf, they are not. From what I can perceive about you, your work on others only seem to be veiled to you but have a far deeper reach than you can imagine. That seems to be the case for others too
RE: Contentions about 'Polarity' - Minyatur - 02-03-2016
(02-03-2016, 02:22 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: I think it's easier to polarize in our thoughts than it is to polarize in our action. But both can potentially be STO.
I think that getting mad at someone who upsets us isn't polarizing STO. We should get to where we only see love in every situation.
Surely but that takes time.
If you seek to forgive yourself and understand yourself for being mad, then slowly this anger will be transmuted into something else.
Then when you will encounter another that is mad, you will know and understand why one can be mad. You will know how to love someone that is mad because first you will have found how to love yourself for this aspect of yourself.
RE: Contentions about 'Polarity' - Minyatur - 02-03-2016
In regards to my above post:
Quote:Ra: I am Ra. The proper role of the entity is in this density to experience all things desired, to then analyze, understand, and accept these experiences, distilling from them the love/light within them. Nothing shall be overcome. That which is not needed falls away.
I do love this quote because it teaches to not want yourself to forcefully change, and instead that change will occur when love is found within the current state of self.
RE: Contentions about 'Polarity' - Night Owl - 02-03-2016
Now I'll step in for the primary subject that is polarisation. From what I can see the concern has been trying to reconcile different point of views. I'll address this to TTP since he seems like the one having a bad experience with that. I have read many of your posts but I have always waited to understand you more before I can say anything. From what I understand, others have been trying to offer you different trains of thoughts which you can catch for a while but your answers seems to be that after considering their thoughts you still suffer therefore their explanations must not work out for you.
From my own personal perspective I don't think anyone has been trying to force you to anything. I don't think the LOO is a bible of any kind. They are tools that you use like you want. I wont elaborate on this but there are major differences between the two that are obvious enough not to compare them one being that Ra only answers questions. This means there can be dissonances or distortions but still they are only a reflection of the question. If an answer doesn't resonate with you the question probably don't either.
This brings me to polarisation. The main message I detect from you and correct me if I'm wrong is that while you analyse others post you still think that polarisation is a subject that makes you suffer. Have you asked yourself why it is that someone else than you can have those thoughts and be at peace while you can't feel well holding those thoughts in your mind? The answer really depends on your personal perspective and would be different for different people.
I may be wrong but my interpretation is that thoughts and words are descriptive. When it comes to emotions it is way more complex. It's more on the quantitive side. But the fact is thoughts are just thoughts. Nobody else than yourself is responsible for what you do with them. They can only have the power to hurt you if you hurt yourself with them. But that have been said. What I can bring to understanding is that if you ever feel like a resistance to any kind of concept and that it makes you suffer, it is done out of love. What you have felt as your reality being negated is in fact your love for what makes you suffer being tored apart. Nobody likes having the structure of their being shaken. But I assure you of something, whatever it is that makes you suffer and that you identify with, you are not that. That is part of you and part of what will make you stronger but you are way more than that. You are love. Even love for things that hurt you. That is infinite.
If you can come at peace with what hurts you you can maybe see things differently. Many have tried to tell you that their thoughts, observations, descriptions aren't contradictory to what you say and yet your answer is still that you suffer when you apply their concepts. Therefore it can only be a matter of interpretation. Every discussion being the mirror that it is, whenever you have felt your reality being negated ask yourself have I myself negated aspects of what I have read. What is the interpretation that I have found out of those words and what is the other really trying to say. Or have I myself interpreted too much? I can assure you everybody is trying to help you and nobody has tried to hurt you. So the dissonance isn't in the intent but in the process.
Between what one says, thinks, writes, means, thinks he has communicated vs what one has heard, interpreted, read and thought he has understood, there are litterally infinite ways of misunderstanding. Try to see the words with the intent of the one who writes and not the intent you have reading it.
RE: Contentions about 'Polarity' - The_Tired_Philosopher - 02-03-2016
Okay. Well, please just consider... When you look beyond Ra's words you'll see that they give you only some of the truth, not all of it.
So to stick to their words so stringently is just another form of bondage, in my opinion, that is what I have found to be true.
What does it mean to accept/reject catalyst in the form of allowance/controlling. Is this confusion? Indifference? I consider it balance. And it works for me. However, it is probably too much for others. Its why I say the way Ra taught it isn't wrong. It just does not ring to me as the whole truth, only some of it as per what was asked and then answered, so as to maintain Free Will.
I'm sorry for coming on so strong. I'll tone it down. I don't even know what more to say on the subject in this judgmental light among this thread against another version of Reality.
Too tired to formulate anymore. If you don't believe it, you won't see it. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
RE: Contentions about 'Polarity' - Night Owl - 02-04-2016
I share your thoughts that the LOO is not an absolute and that there is much beyond it. But i have those questions for you:
Do you understand yourself?
If not do you want to?
Do you wish to be understoood by others?
What do you do bring in an exchange with an other person? Do you absorb information from what is written to you or do you simply share feelings?
Would you agree that to find a solution to a problem one cannot follow the same path that created this same problem because the result would be the same?
None of this has anything to do with Ra.
RE: Contentions about 'Polarity' - rva_jeremy - 02-04-2016
(02-03-2016, 11:47 PM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: I'm sorry for coming on so strong. I'll tone it down. I don't even know what more to say on the subject in this judgmental light among this thread against another version of Reality.
I think I can safely speak for everybody here: nobody wants you to hurt over something like this.
(02-03-2016, 11:47 PM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: If you don't believe it, you won't see it. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Damn skippy.
RE: Contentions about 'Polarity' - The_Tired_Philosopher - 02-04-2016
I'm not hurting, I'm being hypocritical. Anagogy didn't do anything wrong. I got defensive. And I apologize.
Anagogy, I'm sorry. I know it doesn't feel like I mean it but that's more out of shame than anything closing me down.
I hope one day to be able to explain things coherently. To not always feel so isolated, using extreme energy outbursts to garnish attention. Its like mirroring a mirrored image of a mirror for me. I don't always understand if people understand, or how or why. I see myself and others in others and myself. So I.
Am admittedly hard on myself. The way I respond to you shows that to me very blatantly. Its why I say I will tone it down.
That wasn't fair to any of you all. I forget my harshness to myself isn't actually appreciated in other's. I'm sorry.
Until I can...devise a proper way to explain myself. I think I should refrain from speaking it at all.
RE: Contentions about 'Polarity' - Jade - 02-04-2016
That's up to you. I think if anyone was truly bothered by your communication methods, that they wouldn't engage with you. If this has been a relatively therapeutic output, I say keep at it, and don't give it up for you feel embarrassed or whatever. I think you communicate very well, we just all have diverging opinions that mostly depend on semantics anyway. And besides, the only way to get better is to practice!
RE: Contentions about 'Polarity' - rva_jeremy - 02-04-2016
(02-04-2016, 06:08 PM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: I'm not hurting, I'm being hypocritical. Anagogy didn't do anything wrong. I got defensive. And I apologize.
I'm learning so many lessons around defensiveness and needing other people's approval. I feel ya.
And I really, really, REALLY agree with you on approaching the material with you own truth highest.