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RE: things just keep on happening... - creationist - 12-21-2009
(12-20-2009, 07:29 PM)Peregrinus Wrote: Hi fff
To tell the truth, I am making no plans, nor searching, nor asking for help. I am simply putting out to the universe that we need to move forward (out), and having faith that all will work out according to the way it is supposed to. I simply have faith it will work out, and it always does.
I expect to be out for Jan 31st. I am optimistic, happy, and look forward to wherever my daughter and I end up. It will be our new adventure, and we will face it boldly and without fearI am at peace with this.
That is great and inspiring to hear, may you be blessed with positive light in your journey.
RE: things just keep on happening... - Ali Quadir - 12-21-2009
(And some creature comforts just for the heck of it)
I hope that if I ever encounter catalyst like this I will remember your example.
XLSander, Peregrinus, I salute you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXdtUISSHuo
RE: things just keep on happening... - Brittany - 12-22-2009
I’m thinking that perhaps the problem that is occurring is that those who would seek to distract you (be they from within or without) have found a chink in your armor. They realize that hitting you in this particular area produces the greatest results, so they keep slamming away at that one crack, hoping that the whole construct will shatter in time. Be it inner resistance or psychic greeting, the negative has little capacity for mercy and from what I’ve experienced, it never gets tired and decides to take a break for a while.
In my personal opinion (and it is only my opinion), I think you might have some blockages in your lower chakras. It might be helpful to look at what about this situation, exactly, is upsetting you. What part of you is so hurt and frightened by these occurrences? There could be a major pain crystal buried somewhere deep within you that you may have forgotten about or have never been aware of on a conscious level to begin with. Are you suffering from the fear of letting others down? Are you afraid your family might not love you if you fail to provide? Do you feel you are not getting what you deserve in life, and perhaps don’t believe you deserve it, either? All of these kinds of issues can clog the whole system right up. A serious self evaluation, delving deep into the core of what makes you you and finding the absolute root source of this pain might help you to go with the flow better. A catalyst is simply a reflection of one’s self through the reactions an experience brings about. A catalyst, in itself, does not think about what it is doing. It just happens. The reaction you choose to have toward said catalyst is entirely up to you, but if you’re not sure who you are, it becomes a much harder decision to weigh evenly.
I honestly can’t say that any specific action will relieve your pain. Only you can find its source and it is your choice entirely as to what you wish your response to be. I can’t say you just need to be more positive, that is is this or that that is hurting you, because I’m not you, not in the individualized 3rd density sense, anyway. All I can do is be a further catalyst. Still, I hope my words may be of help and resonate with you in some way.
May love and light surround you,
-Lynn
RE: things just keep on happening... - Peregrinus - 12-24-2009
(12-22-2009, 12:55 AM)ahktu Wrote: I’m thinking that perhaps the problem that is occurring is that those who would seek to distract you (be they from within or without) have found a chink in your armor. They realize that hitting you in this particular area produces the greatest results, so they keep slamming away at that one crack, hoping that the whole construct will shatter in time. Be it inner resistance or psychic greeting, the negative has little capacity for mercy and from what I’ve experienced, it never gets tired and decides to take a break for a while.
In my personal opinion (and it is only my opinion), I think you might have some blockages in your lower chakras. It might be helpful to look at what about this situation, exactly, is upsetting you. What part of you is so hurt and frightened by these occurrences? There could be a major pain crystal buried somewhere deep within you that you may have forgotten about or have never been aware of on a conscious level to begin with. Are you suffering from the fear of letting others down? Are you afraid your family might not love you if you fail to provide? Do you feel you are not getting what you deserve in life, and perhaps don’t believe you deserve it, either? All of these kinds of issues can clog the whole system right up. A serious self evaluation, delving deep into the core of what makes you you and finding the absolute root source of this pain might help you to go with the flow better. A catalyst is simply a reflection of one’s self through the reactions an experience brings about. A catalyst, in itself, does not think about what it is doing. It just happens. The reaction you choose to have toward said catalyst is entirely up to you, but if you’re not sure who you are, it becomes a much harder decision to weigh evenly.
I honestly can’t say that any specific action will relieve your pain. Only you can find its source and it is your choice entirely as to what you wish your response to be. I can’t say you just need to be more positive, that is is this or that that is hurting you, because I’m not you, not in the individualized 3rd density sense, anyway. All I can do is be a further catalyst. Still, I hope my words may be of help and resonate with you in some way.
May love and light surround you,
-Lynn
I don't know if you were referring to myself or XLSander, but I have the opposite problem as a blockage... if this is a problem...
RE: things just keep on happening... - xlsander - 01-21-2010
i have a question about wanderer's in the aspect of apparently things keep repeating of a frustrating nature
firstly i read this today
http://www.llresearch.org/wanderer_quotes.aspx#1.%20You%20are%20loved
beautiful quotes btw
and i came acreoss this more than once:
"Each of you came here determined to make a difference. Each of you has those tools and resources that are needed.”
then why some keep hitting the wall ? to be the difference by remaining open hearted in the midst of failure and frustration
"Each of you, by being the way you are, is at this time a servant of the light, and you need do nothing more than live and love to fulfill your mission upon Earth. Naturally, each of you gave yourself gifts to share, lessons to learn and outer services to perform. And we encourage each to move along those lines of talent and gifts as you perceive them, looking for ways to share those gifts. But realize that, more than those outer doings, the inner essence is the true and central gift of the life, which you have come to offer. It is a beautiful gift. It is a gift that will take you all your life to give, and our encouragement to you is to give this gift and do this service regardless of what else you seem to be doing in your life.”
ok so this would indicate it is rathe rabout an inner loving no matter what is happeneing in outside world then - how do you see this?
and
"For truly we say to you, to the best of our knowledge, each has a destiny. Each has a mission. Each has come into incarnation with gifts to share, with a mission to fulfill, a service to do, and with learning to accomplish. The learning is always about love. The serving is always about trusting in the rightness of the moment.”
again how does this tie in when you always get burned for trusting the rightness of the moment?
I am not trying to play silly here - I certainly value all the lessons of life and catlysts - nontheless i have an inner urge i cannot let got which is why i am seeking to know more about this topic specifically
merci everyone :Heart:
RE: things just keep on happening... - Peregrinus - 01-21-2010
(01-21-2010, 07:09 AM)xlsander Wrote: "For truly we say to you, to the best of our knowledge, each has a destiny. Each has a mission. Each has come into incarnation with gifts to share, with a mission to fulfill, a service to do, and with learning to accomplish. The learning is always about love. The serving is always about trusting in the rightness of the moment.”
again how does this tie in when you always get burned for trusting the rightness of the moment?
As one who has been "burned" many times, I would offer only my understanding. Somewhere along the path there was a choice, and when we make that choice we get burned. If we keep making that choice, we keep getting burned, in a bigger more harsh way.
I lost my house, my employment, my friend and lover, and ended up in a basement room with next to nothing, my previous care free and elegant life ripped from me. How did I get here? It was in the choices I made over the last ten years. Each time I thought I had learned, I did the same thing again, in subtly varying themes. Each time I lost more, until this time I lost everything, and came to have to pay attention and learn. With my toddler daughter and my health, I have come to appreciate the moment, life, have awakened to my purpose here as a wanderer, and have a faith stronger than I could have ever imagined. Yet still I could make the mistake again, and have to be aware of it, for the next time I have but little but the most precious things left to lose in this world.
When it comes to love... my sister has always said I am foolhardy and charge in like a white knight, always trying to save the day. This... aspect of myself... I shall never change, and no matter what I lose, I shall always be that white knight, yet I have learned that it is not up to me to save anyone. Only the person them self can do that. Love I will never give up on. Control... I am letting go of.
RE: things just keep on happening... - Aaron - 01-21-2010
I've experienced that even if you think you are finding the love in the present moment, if you look deeper, you will find those little bits and specks of your thoughts that are seeking to control. In other words, if you examine your intentions in any given moment closely, you'll find that a little part of you may be looking forward to a certain outcome, hoping for something to happen, or just a tiny bit irritated about something that somebody said or did, or what happened. If you can let even those tiny specks go and further surrender to the Present and its complex simplicity and imperfect perfection, you'll reach a higher state. It's about trusting that the Present moment knows where It's going, and taking you along for the ride to give you people to interact with and places to see.
What I'm trying to say is that this losing of what you hold dear may be a reflection of not trusting completely in the Moment (which is very very hard to do, believe me!). Or it could be a reflection of something in your state similar to that, which is keeping you from doing exactly what needs to be done in that moment. (or as the Taoists say, finding the highest virtue.) If you swing your axe at the tree, and it bounces back and hits your side (or in my case since I'm only about 125 pounds, flings you around and pulls you to the ground
), then it's time to sharpen your axe before you try again! I think we've been through the stage where you believe you're ready to help others come to awareness and so act in that moment, bringing what we perceive to be a message of awakening, and receive a seemingly harsh (when really it's full of love) message that says "Do not interfere like that!" At that point, more meditation is required, so to speak. More work on the self needs to be done; more lessons need to be learned before the highest virtue can be sought in the Present moment. This doesn't mean that God is shutting you out, but rather the opposite! You're getting a glimpse of the Intelligence's inner workings on every other self and your own. And with that glimpse behind the panel that sees the inner workings of the machine, a responsibility is needed. You take responsibility for your own state of consciousness.But I really feel like I'm preaching to the choir here. The above may or may not be relevant here. Peregrinus, if you are talking on a broader scope, such as making the choice to embrace the love by not doing something harsh that an unconscious person would do, and you subsequently get "knocked down a peg", then I might be able to speak to that as well, although I have no life experience dealing with great loss. (at least not yet anyway haha) Could it be that before you were awake, you put out negative energy and so attracted negative situations and created a negative life? That negative life might be filled with all kinds of awesome things, none of which would speak to the soul. Then, as you slowly awaken, you start putting out that positive energy and attract positive situations, which of course would not seem good to the negative aspect of yourself! And as you awaken, you move through the spectrum and situational forces align that would allow you to be a clearer channel for the love of Universal Intelligence. A humble guess from one who has much less life experience under his belt.
If I were in your situation, I would ask to the deepest part of myself "What can I do now?" But who am I kidding, I Am in your situation right now! Meaning of course, the I Am that we are is in both situations at once, learning from itself. And we on this forum are here for you as well. 
RE: things just keep on happening... - transiten - 01-22-2010
I can identify 100% with your catalysts. I don't have the energy to tell my story whole right now, but i lost almost everything i had once including my mental and emotional health after having been brainwashed by a meditationguru. My childhood was emotionally disruptive and i developed a strong codependencypattern. I have also been quite successful as a singer and musiscian in between the catastrophic events in my life. I had an inheritance that is almost gone now. My life has been a true emotional rollercoaster with extreme ups and downs, success and total loss, ranging between being idolized and cast-out, the typical "fame-syndrome".
It's easy to fear the loss of what you have if you have that experience over and over again, deep down there is this anticipation lurking making you cocreate the loss youself if it's not effectuated from someone else. A selfdestructive pattern, difficult to detect.
This of course is a lifepath i choose before reincarnating reflected in a chart with challenging plutonic/saturnian/neptunic hard aspects as well as some "benefic" ones. This doesn't mean that another person born at the exact same time and place would respond in the same way to the world/the self, but the overall theme would be the same.
I am not a determinist, but we have different challenges in life as we can see here; Aaron never experienced great loss in life whereas i can very much identify with peregrinus, ixlanders and fairyfarmgirls experiences. My lifepattern goes back to my mother and her parents: loss of great wealth, mental illness and supressed talents both from inside and outside, and probably in "direct line from the 7:th generation" as stated in the bible.
Someone has to break this pattern, and the opportunity arises every time it is recurring and THE TIME IS...NOW and the answer lies WITHIN reflected from OUTSIDE. Not an easy task being a spiritual alchemist, turning "lead/the shadow issues" to gold.
Keep on being miners for a
of gold (Neil Young)transiten
RE: things just keep on happening... - xlsander - 01-26-2010
and another one - today almost everything of what i worked to build up over the last 6 months was lost due to the man i teamed up as a partner...so this means another rebuild and hopefolly not another pitfall when things just start to work out...sustainability? this is something so so missing in my life, the story of it so to speak
so i will seek contemplate and meditate about what was the love of this moment and what lifelesson i have planned here for me grasp - so i can overcome it eventally and keep strifing for fulfilling my urge for a normal sustainable life taken crae of whom i am responsible for
RE: things just keep on happening... - Peregrinus - 01-26-2010
(01-26-2010, 07:25 PM)xlsander Wrote: and another one - today almost everything of what i worked to build up over the last 6 months was lost due to the man i teamed up as a partner...
One of the inherent traits of a wanderer... always ending up alone. I think when wanderers get together, they are blessed, for their lights shine the same. When a wanderer and an earthling get together... there never is the connection the wanderer hopes for.
RE: things just keep on happening... - fairyfarmgirl - 01-27-2010
I can relate, Xlsander!
Up until recently everything I did turned out wrong! I teamed up with the wrong people. I kept getting fired from my jobs. I was betrayed by those who were close to me... My work was sabatoged... At one point I thought if this just keeps getting better and better--- I would really not want to see what life would be if it got any worse! 
Being a Wanderer and a Sensitive it is not always easy. What I have learned is that when things have fallen apart I have opened my HEART more and Greater experiences have flowed in. Life is a crash course on the Law of Attraction. So, my life started to turn around when I read this book. Road to Power, Fast Food for the Soul, Barbara Helen Berger.
Imagine it and live in that imaged creation in an attitude of gratitude! It works and works well. And this works extremely well when All is in HARMONY with SELF, EARTH/Gaia/Terra and the Cosmos. The other piece that I also put together is this... that which is invisible often impacts all that is visible. So my new question when creating is "What is it that I am not seeing clearly?" Believe me, the Universe (in one or more of all its forms) will answer and if one is in a space of Gratitude the best for the highest Good of all including Self scenarios will be heard by the one doing the asking.This is time for a Virtual Hug. I send you one right now!
There is something that can be salvaged from your experience. There always is something that can be used from a previous experience figuratively and literally.
As a Wanderer I learned that it was best that I went at it alone until I met my Husband--- who is a Wanderer of sorts as well. We help each other. But for me to get to this point I had to let all that I was holding onto (except my child of course) go. The message was LET GO to GO FORWARD... LOL easy to say challenging to do! When I LET GO and was willing to Accept my Creations: all this good stuff just started to rush in. I still have some challenges and those are being resolved each day... It is the Experience of Living that is the Goal--- at least for me.
Love--
fairyfarmgirl