Quote:Love, to me is ensuring the happiness of others, and giving all I can to ensure that.

(11-19-2009, 01:55 PM)Peregrinus Wrote: My latest Chakra test. It appears I am gaining in balancing, though my orange ray is still weak, and how do I throttle back my third eye? I think my head is going to explode from the pressure of it.

(11-19-2009, 11:27 PM)Questioner Wrote: Your excerpt about Stoic philosophy sure has some parallels with the Law of One material. I didn't realize that you had so recently discovered this material. Are you going through the Ra books?

(11-19-2009, 11:27 PM)Questioner Wrote: Thank you for the Pineal work explanation. Those all look like healthy habits that would be helpful for me as well. I'm already doing some of them. If there is not already a thread here about caffeine, I might start one some time.

(11-19-2009, 11:27 PM)Questioner Wrote: To relate this to the Wanderer concept from the Law of One, maybe between your Wanderer and human spiritual pedigrees, one is more emotional, and other has been mostly effective in shutting down those emotions.

(11-19-2009, 11:27 PM)Questioner Wrote: The bigger questions, then, include: What is happiness? How is it found? Can we ever actually ensure or block the happiness of another person? If happiness is getting what you want, can someone who doesn't know who they are or what they want really be happy?

(11-19-2009, 11:27 PM)Questioner Wrote: From the Ra books and other sources, I see these associations with orange ray:

The integration of apparently disparate, inert materials into an integrated organism, as with single-celled organisms who imbue the elements with the emergent synergetic properties of life.

Within the individual, the lumbar plexus, distribution of nerves involved in voluntary motion of the lower trunk, groin and upper legs: where we pivot, take a stand or choose the direction we walk in, being outgoing without suffering a stiff back from a fixed position, free of undeserved guilt that would make us freeze.

Within humanity, expression of individual, personal power, through movement and growth of the individual. In a positive sense, respecting the personal power of others. In a negative sense, denying the rights of others to have their own personal freedom.

The power of teamwork, as in team sports or mass transportation - again, walking or kicking.

Emotions and happiness (you're definitely working very hard on this one)

Connection to physical self-care and self-expression activities including water, food, sexuality and parenthood. If imbalanced, potential problems with lungs, kidneys, low thyroid, depression. Applying usage of water, correct bladder function and centered calm in the sense of martial artists who are free to pivot in any direction as circumstances change. (Bruce Lee is awesome to watch at this.)

Healthy self-esteem and goal-driven expression that promotes one's own growth. Joy, pleasure, sociability.

(11-19-2009, 11:27 PM)Questioner Wrote:

Quote:"The orange-ray body is the physical body complex. This body complex is still not the body you inhabit but rather the body formed without self-awareness, the body in the womb before the spirit/mind complex enters. This body may live without the inhabitation of the mind and spirit complexes. However, it seldom does so." - Ra, Session 47

(11-19-2009, 11:27 PM)Questioner Wrote: The third eye chakra is associated with the pineal gland, ESP/psychic phenomena, meditation, spirituality, intuition, and physically, blood flow to brain, eyes and head.

Is there a chance that you've been pursuing spiritual enlightenment at the cost of not being grounded in the physical world, where you need to walk around in this life?

Quote:Remember what I said at the beginning?

I had seemingly achieved a state of love and acceptance for all people, for all paths, for all who struggled in ignorance. ... I was, in a certain sense, in as bad a situation as I had been when the "voice" had told me that I must "learn" about evil. ... what I didn't know was just how subtle and torturous... deception could be and how it manifested on an individual, personal basis.

Now, what conclusions can we draw from all of this?

I have recently asked several friends to have a look at this particular narrative in order to discover if their analyses of the events is anywhere similar to my own. I was very grateful at the clarity of their responses which are so astute I would like to quote them in part.

"C" writes:

What comes up for me is:
1. The hierarchy of the attack system may or may not be known consciously to the conduits, especially those at the lower rungs of the hierarchy.
2. Compromise can be fractional or great; attacks come through integrity breeches of the chosen relay, and spread by contagion or artifice through to any weak spot of the end person.
3. One can observe strings, little nagging ideas or "small faults" which can be explained away or overridden by other more positive or engaging attributes of the person in question. 4. On the other hand, "weirdnesses" or "personality quirks" are not necessarily indicators of contamination at all.
5. The obvious "love and light" fallacy brings up a point of interest for me personally, and this relates to 3 above. [i.e. Forgiveness.]

On the topic of forgiveness: this is something that can easily go on automatic, and appears to be a point where one can easily go blind to these little strings.

When one is faced with attack, one needs to be very clear on the dynamics of a situation, and where one has consciously or unconsciously overlooked/forgiven someone for some wrong or fault, it creates weakness in one's own integrity. And by integrity I am not limiting my definition to moral integrity--I mean this as more of a generic "wholeness."

When you go down the path of forgiveness, you also open up the realm of not-forgiveness. I think that the subject does warrant some new inspection/reworking of thoughts. I think that forgiveness going on as [an] automatic mental process is a Christian program. There is also the question of how can students truly forgive each other when every action/counteraction is part of lesson?

I'm not advocating the holding of a grudge either by this.

True forgiveness implies a canceling out of the other person's weak spot, an acknowledgment that the damage has been ended in the Forgiver.

Forgiveness can be viewed in a mundane way as a judgment (just as a refusal to forgive can be judgment). It does not guarantee that the underlying weakness in the forgiven person has now been addressed and resolved. It also implies to the forgiven one that the forgiver has resolved his own lesson. Are we as humans really qualified to do this?

Seemingly to me, in a similar way, when we make allowances for others' weak spots by reason of judging that their other good qualities "cancel out these weak spots," we agree to overlook, we can also close the door to receiving information about our own more unconscious aspects from our true friends. Integral to this type of scene of course would be the ability and means with which to make effective corrections and improvements. And of course each member would have the right and responsibility to maintain his/her own integrity. Any organization would be subject to contamination, and would be as strong as its weakest link.

Therefore, the individuals in the group would really have to be completely responsible as individuals for their participation in the group. Each of us has weak spots and points where we can be "used," just as others' weak spots can be used to wreak havoc on us. The question is to what length am I going to shore up my own weak spots and to assist others who are willing to do the same?

What are our strengths and our weaknesses? What do we nurture? What do we watch for in our own ranks? Are we willing to kindly give and receive help in this direction? What can we do to mutually assist in strengthening our union and each other? Seems there should be an astral immune system, parallel to a physical immune system. If there was such a system, I would expect that integrity would be a measure of the health of that system. Knowledge protects, not forgiveness.

[There are] no guarantees that one won't get attacked, but one can minimize the duration or severity of the attack and adverse effects as one goes through life. "Forgiveness" can be a blinder to knowledge. ... I know also that I have swept correct original impressions under the rug of "forgiveness" and have regretted this later.

[In terms of Forgiveness and Love and Light] the forgiven party now "knows" he is not responsible, and if it ends there without further inspection, the source can use the same or similar modes for future feeding.

To the degree that the target of attack employs a simple "turning of the other cheek," he is marked for further attack, for as long as his energy can be siphoned off.

On the other hand, if both the attacker and the attacked can honestly and openly inspect the mechanics of the attack, and be willing to take steps to repair the holes in the integrity of the relationship, there is a formidable strength. i.e., turning the petty tyrant around.

[In any relationship where such attack transpires] if a person can observe and realize on his own steam and without judgment or blame that he is being used in this way, there is hope. But no guarantee. ... One has to be able to also commit to knowing one's own limitations, be ready for other varied and sundry modes of attack and betrayal coming through the weaker party, and also take responsibility for his part in the other's evolution and growth - even if the correct next action is to withdraw for one's own sanity and so as to not disrupt the lesson of the other.

A very good analogy of what is described above was then given by another friend, "L," who wrote:

We all have on our "spiritual" armor, our shield and sword. I picture us standing in a line. The warrior standing next to you has to be outfitted in the same gear; you can't take off your breast plate and give it to the warrior next to you because he woke up late and forgot to bring his; your chance of getting pierced through the heart would be ten fold; nor could you be fighting with a warrior standing next to you that didn't do any training - he just decided to wake up and put on some armor that day.

In other words you have to be on equal footing [with those with whom you associate closely.]

But also like a warrior, you don't leave your injured behind and if you see them being attacked from all sides you charge in swinging your sword. These people are your comrades, they are closer than family at times of battle.

This reminds me of something I read in Carlos Castenada's books: don Juan said "A warrior loses compassion because he no longer feels self pity." In many ways this is true. I think of forgiveness as just a "letting go," knowing that some things have to happen in order to fulfill a lesson; that everyone has their role to play.

And that is the point: everyone has their "role" to play in the "lessons" we are all learning. And we can use these lessons to get better at who we are and what we do, or we can retreat into the cocoons of our belief systems, closing our eyes to the marvelous wonder of the universe and the great Cosmic Drama.

Yes, in a real sense we ARE all one, but we seem to be under a mandate to discover our true options, CHOOSE our role, and act it to the hilt, bringing down the house with applause and cascades of flowers when the final curtain comes down.

When the play is over and we all meet "backstage," we may clap each other on the back, shake each other's hands, and congratulate each other for a fine performance! But that is a different level. There seem to be many more acts in the play before we reach 7th density. And if we are NOT playing our part well, we can very likely be "pulled from the play" and "recycled" as an extra! We are in the middle of the play. And we cannot become playwrights or directors until we prove that we can act. And this "acting" seems to involve very specific choices and behaviors so that the play will be "successful."

So, back to practical terms in the Cosmic drama: a very difficult situation had been "survived," and a very interesting lesson had been learned. But, that was not the end of it. Not by a long shot! Whoever or WHATever it was that wanted to kill me had NOT given up. I was about to learn that when you block it from one direction, it sneaks around and tries to find another way to get in. And sometimes, the way in is through your own mind!

(11-22-2009, 07:47 AM)Memorandem Wrote: "A warrior loses compassion because he no longer feels self pity." - Don Juan

(11-22-2009, 07:47 AM)Memorandem Wrote: Feeling sorry about someone without taking action has no value; it is a wasted action and a waste of energy better used for other things.

So, feeling sorry for another person is really only self pity, because you remember feeling their pain. Some people call this empathy but really it only amounts to pity.

Pain is caused by a real problem; pain can't be resolved through pity.

A warrior is a man of action; he brings his purpose to the hilt. If it doesn't make any real difference, it's not an action, simply a reaction. (actions add energy to a system; reactions simply rebound energy in some way, and some energy is always lost in a reaction - reactive systems die off)

(11-22-2009, 07:47 AM)Memorandem Wrote: What I think you're missing is something you're better off without. My experience is that most if not all of human emotional experience is just wishful thinking and logically erroneous trash that can be done without.

(11-23-2009, 01:50 PM)transiten Wrote:

Well nowadays utube is filled with UFO from all over the world, filmed with shaky cameras and soon there's a possibility there wil be a disclosure from either the french, bristish or american governments..

...hence i don't get the notion that ufo cannot be proved by ordinairy scientific means..they are visible to the naked eya as far as i can see..

..or did i misunderstand something english not being my native language

transiten waiting for the femimine principle/the queen of the throne of cassiopeia to be resurrected[/b]

(11-20-2009, 12:51 AM)Peregrinus Wrote: I am currently on session 89, reading two to three sessions per night before bed.

Quote:Caffeine? Please, do put this post together, with haste. I would enjoy to learn of what you can consider or show to be negative effects of such and one what body system(s) the effects correspond to.

Quote:I see happiness, just as I see sadness, or indifference, in the eyes. The eyes never lie. Of course, one cannot ensure another's happiness, but one can place happiness in front of them and allow them the choice.

(12-24-2009, 03:21 PM)Peregrinus Wrote: Like I said, I feel like I am going to lift off, 3/4 of the way in 4D already. I hear the frequency of the vibration all the time now. I am increasingly feeling at one with love itself, with all about me, feeling the consciousness in everything, and I do mean everything. Even a cup I can love... I just don''t know how to slow this down. We have three years until the shift. I'm ready today...

(12-24-2009, 03:53 PM)Aaron Wrote: The sun is rising. The snow of discontent is melting and humanity is coming into realization of conscious springtime love. Soon the green things will pop up.

(02-26-2010, 03:20 PM)ayadew Wrote: Peregrinus, my friend.

I am currently in a state of non-feeling after my 25-day period of constant anguish and despair. I remember myself as having many feelings before this, but I just can't find anything inside of me these days. It's only been a week since I got out of the nightmare, so I am perhaps slowly regaining myself.
It's quite boring, just watching the world experiencing itself with not much desire from myself to interact. Is this how you feel or have felt?
People say they love me. I have almost forgotten what that feeling is like. I can remember it though, and sometimes there's a tiny spark, but not today.

"There's a season for everything" said those of Hosts of Heaven. Is this perhaps the season for a state of complete rest? It's almost like being dead inside.

Patience is perhaps the lesson here..