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RE: Am I going to make the harvest? - zenmaster - 10-20-2012
(10-20-2012, 01:18 PM)rie Wrote: What is a strawman?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman
(10-20-2012, 01:22 PM)Spaced Wrote: A strawman is when you build up your own version of someone else's opinion and attack that instead of whatever the other person was actually arguing.Yes, or to contrive hypothetical scenarios which may be conveniently addressed outside of reality. Sort of like the same consciousness (or unconsciousness) which tends to create laws, or "codification of response", which does not recognize the uniqueness of each and every situation within our experience.
RE: Am I going to make the harvest? - native - 10-20-2012
(10-20-2012, 01:16 PM)zenmaster Wrote: Do you think that has anything to do with "'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me."?
That's one of my favorite quotes. I was speaking to the idea that Ra seems to be refining their methods on how to be the most effective teacher, which is probably how they learn from us. Teaching to the masses in Egypt didn't work for various reasons. They seem to express their own learning in the material, with the need for the group to forget counting, or quick growth among others..the opposite of what was seemingly being attempted in Egypt. Although that could simply be an encouragement to not take on a dogmatic attitude.
RE: Am I going to make the harvest? - reeay - 10-20-2012
Is it better to just preface understanding of life experience from the first person perspective?
I love how the Tao Te Ching talks about how teachers teach when they stop teaching and the student unlearns so they could learn.
RE: Am I going to make the harvest? - Vasistha - 10-20-2012
(10-17-2012, 08:30 AM)theoneinall Wrote: Is there a way one can find out how much they have polarized?
I live from an open heart and try to be God's vessle of love and light as much as I can. However, as far as outer service goes, I don't think I do enough for others.
Is there a way to energetically gauge the progression?
thank you in advance,
Love,
Hello theoneinall,
Considering your ID, I would not be too worried. Realization of Oneness is pretty much guaranteed harvest for 4D.
What resides on the violet ray is what matter for harvest; and as far as 'outer' service goes, what matter the most is BEING. The sun shines over everything. Be a sun.
Your higher self is already in 6D, like the one of your neighboor. So you can already celebrate.
Remember that you are in a grand illusion. As long as you see many, this is an illusion. Enjoy it like all the others 'you' everywhere. In reality nothing ever happened; the only true reality is the One.
Cheers.
RE: Am I going to make the harvest? - zenmaster - 10-20-2012
(10-20-2012, 01:55 PM)Vasistha Wrote: The sun shines over everything. Be a sun.What is your general awareness of self as sun? Can you expand on that?
(10-20-2012, 01:49 PM)rie Wrote: Is it better to just preface understanding of life experience from the first person perspective?I think what's best is to attempt any communication with honesty. There is no coincidence that the two are intimately related. That's how you learn what you are teaching, which is the most effective way to teach.
(10-20-2012, 01:49 PM)rie Wrote: I love how the Tao Te Ching talks about how teachers teach when they stop teaching and the student unlearns so they could learn.I like it as well.
RE: Am I going to make the harvest? - reeay - 10-20-2012
(10-20-2012, 01:11 PM)Horuseus Wrote: I find pondering upon such concepts can serve as a distraction which folk are all too often happy to get involved with.
There seems to be this Egotistical connotation affiliated with the term Harvest, as if those who 'progress' are better in the sense they have now graduated from University and the 'dumb' kids are back repeating the final year again.
I understood your comment as perceiving yourself better than others who ponder what harvest is and want to understand it better. Maybe I am not understanding your point.
RE: Am I going to make the harvest? - Horuseus - 10-20-2012
(10-20-2012, 03:42 PM)rie Wrote:(10-20-2012, 01:11 PM)Horuseus Wrote: I find pondering upon such concepts can serve as a distraction which folk are all too often happy to get involved with.
There seems to be this Egotistical connotation affiliated with the term Harvest, as if those who 'progress' are better in the sense they have now graduated from University and the 'dumb' kids are back repeating the final year again.
I understood your comment as perceiving yourself better than others who ponder what harvest is and want to understand it better. Maybe I am not understanding your point.
Easy mistake made. Of course you are more than welcome to your opinion. I find interpretation of any text or response to be a useful tool for reflection upon the inner thought process of the individual. Whenever I see something 'negative', I know there is no such thing, and that there is a lesson to be found within each. My initial post may have come off as brash, but taking into example the question posed 'Am I going to make the harvest' is about as meaningful as asking if I am to live this time next week, or whether one is to reach a 'Heaven' or have 'Salvation' (From an Abrahamic perspective).
But hey, what do I know. My subjective perception. The beauty of the 3D experience is that we have free will. If it were not for this life on Earth would be very dull.
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RE: Am I going to make the harvest? - reeay - 10-20-2012
I grew up around Pure Land Buddhists who prayed for their salvation and loved Buddha dearly... and surrounded by friends who trained at Zen schools, who are into the whole, "if you see the Buddha kill the Buddha." Interesting how different paths converge to the same place, eventually.
Welcome to the forum
RE: Am I going to make the harvest? - Liet - 10-21-2012
(10-20-2012, 12:37 PM)rie Wrote: I wonder if 5th density is referred to the density of rest because in 4th density, they work so much with love and are excited to work hard that they tired a bit (because they learn love but not yet balanced it with wisdom, right?)...
(10-20-2012, 12:47 PM)rie Wrote: Now that I think about it, doing something with love is not "exhausting," but if 4th density were still polarized, being so polarized to love would make for an intense experience.
Am I going somewhere Cyan lol
Umh, 4th density for the positive polarity is overwhelmingly filled with satiation and thus inactivity... (love might not be exhausting, but it sure is satiating)
Based on how Ra describes the fifth density, the main area of work there seem to be the little other than the celiac&solar plexus (whole left frontal lobe).. which means its gona be a quite active period.
RE: Am I going to make the harvest? - reeay - 10-21-2012
(10-21-2012, 05:46 AM)Liet Wrote: Umh, 4th density for the positive polarity is overwhelmingly filled with satiation and thus inactivity... (love might not be exhausting, but it sure is satiating)
Based on how Ra describes the fifth density, the main area of work there seem to be the little other than the celiac&solar plexus (whole left frontal lobe).. which means its gona be a quite active period.
I'm trying to imagine a satiating life that involves inactivity... It does sound really nice considering this 3rd density.
Edit: sorry not "involving"...
OK so what did you mean Icaro by this :
Quote:This isn't much that a person can do in the grand scheme of things, is there? Focusing on a specific task seems helpful, as our problems are so complex that they can't be fixed without progression in consciousness. Yet, teaching to the general population is all but fruitless, as you can't get others to wake up. So it's interesting that the wisdom density is referred to as the "density of rest". It's easy to get lost in self-judgement.
RE: Am I going to make the harvest? - Cyan - 10-21-2012
From what i feel is the 4th D, it would feel similar to a neverending slide down into a more and more comfortable sense of being asleep without ever falling asleep. Kind of that sense of satiation just at the edge of sleep when your body starts to relax entirely and combined with higher awareness and kind of a sense of being loved / humped.
Thats about as much as i can describe the basic vib of 4thD pos as far as i can imagine it being based on experience. cant say anything about accuracy unfortunately.
RE: Am I going to make the harvest? - reeay - 10-21-2012
(10-21-2012, 05:57 AM)Cyan Wrote: Kind of that sense of satiation just at the edge of sleep when your body starts to relax entirely and combined with higher awareness and kind of a sense of being loved / humped.
lol thank goodness not an "elephant" experience