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RE: Why do we have to ask for protection daily? - Ankh - 09-29-2012
(09-20-2012, 08:38 AM)Jim Kent + Wrote: When these "greetings" take their toll on my mental / emotional state, I am reminded that all I have to do is ask for protection before I go to sleep.
But that protection only lasts for one night and if I forget to ask for that protection every night, the protection seems to vanish!
What is a about our Human existence that requires us to ask for protection on a daily basis?
In one of my dreams I was once surrounded by what I call "grey shadows". They are humanoid dark looking beings with no sharp or clear shape who have been visiting me for a while, always with the same goal - to instill pain and fear. As they were approaching me in that particular dream they were instilling fear and pain in me even this time. I was running through different options in my mind of how to handle this situation, but got more and more paralyzed as they were coming closer. The pain grew stronger and so did fear. Suddenly I heard a clear voice that spoke to me: "Call the angels." And that I did, and in an instant it got very bright and there was a laughter and silver sparks everywhere. The shadows disappeared in a moment and I was brought to awaken state. I opened my eyes and as I was lying in my bed in the middle of that night, I "felt" and as almost "saw" that the whole bedroom was bright and filled with that light, and I could still hear their laughter in my mind as they were there with me. As you can read in this story too, a call for help is what helped that entity in his difficult situation.
I think that if you forget to ask for help before you go to sleep, you can perhaps do it in your sleep too, if you remember it of course while dreaming?
What I think requires us, human beings, to ask for protection on a daily basis is that we are in the density of choice, behind the veil. The Law of free will "prohibits" positive entities to help us when we are greeted by negative friends. We have to choose to ask for their aid/protection.
I also believe that some of these greetings from our negative friends are not "fruitful" or "meaningful", but are there only to instill fear and pain. They see the light, they don't like it and they want to put it out, or turn it off or at least down. But of course, even these "meaningless" attacks have a purpose. Faith for instance has been discussed in this thread. And this is what Carla has to say about psychic greetings in A Wanderer's Handbook:
page 75 Wrote:When wanderers become aware of their mission and seek to do “light work” on behalf of the planet, if they are well enough in tune with the light to begin with, they begin to be a channel for a good deal of light going into the Earth planes, and they thusly attract the attention of “the loyal opposition,” as I often call those discarnate entities whose path is that of service to self. Such entities are drawn to the flow of light which the light worker is offering through its instrument, and wish to trap that light for themselves. If the light workers are proud of what they are doing, or if there is any distortion of truth anywhere in their offering of self as channel, the chance of attracting psychic “attack” grows. People standing close to the light in their work in consciousness may always expect occasional psychic greetings, for we are all human and prone to error.
page 77 Wrote:I have genuinely found reason for praise and thanksgiving as I work with psychic greetings. This is the key. Psychic greeting may bring mental, emotional or physical pain. It also comes with blessings in its hands.
I do not mean to say that psychic greeting is not sometimes alarming. It certainly is. There can be immense pain and staggering amounts of suffering in a greeting, and it can take many forms.
page 7 Wrote:Psychic greeting can take place within dreams as well as during conscious awareness. The typical time for such nightmarish dreams is the deep of night, at three or four in the morning. Initiation can bring about the same situation, of awakening in the night feeling attacked and hag-ridden.
page 80 Wrote:A word about initiation: like many terms related to the inner life and spiritual seeking, initiation is a fuzzy word. I am willing to leave the fuzz on it, rather than attempting to define more accurately those times of testing and trial that we receive as gifts from the spirit. Initiation occurs at a point when much has been learned. The catalyst has been taken and the responses have been those which attempt to polarize, to make some progress as a seeker of truth who knows herself. The learning wants to spiral ahead, and we feel ready. At that crux, there will often be a time of real inner challenge, complete with scary nightmares, odd visions, interrupted sleep and general spiritual malaise. I believe these are times when the spiritual part of self needs to be sure the previous learning has been well seated.
A Wanderer's Handbook
RE: Why do we have to ask for protection daily? - zenmaster - 09-29-2012
It would seem that one would invite the opposite of protection by thinking about needing to be protected. Not sure how to say this, but becoming congruent with how you see yourself in totality is "protection". If you want to attract negative attention, carry a "spiritual" notion, idea or philosophy with imbalance and improper seating.
"Initiation" is just the point where one finally becomes conscious of the interior realities. That is, validating the subjective aspects of all experience, the beginning appreciation of relativism or pluralism, moving beyond reductionism as a worldview, the formation of ideologies. It's part of a general valuing meme held by the 6th subdensity here. However, compared to the point where one can begin to take responsibility for themselves and others conscious development here, not much has been learned at all.
RE: Why do we have to ask for protection daily? - native - 09-29-2012
When Ra gives the advice to see the self as Creator, they're basically saying to have self-love (acceptance of self). Negative greetings like to impart that you're doing/have done something wrong, and that your efforts as an individual within are not sufficient enough (unworthiness/possible over-activation of compassion for others).
"That this instrument should fail to see that which has been accomplished and see only that which remains to be accomplished may well be noted. Indeed, any seeker discovering in itself this complex of mental and mental/emotional distortions shall ponder the possible non-efficacy of judgment."
Of course we'll see areas in which we can improve, but if we learn to love and accept ourselves, then our beliefs/will can't be manipulated. Because not only do we have a responsibility to accept others, we also have to honor ourselves. I think that may be what Ra is speaking of when they refer to "all-embracing" love.
RE: Why do we have to ask for protection daily? - Patrick - 10-02-2012
(09-27-2012, 11:55 AM)Pickle Wrote:(09-26-2012, 03:39 PM)Richard Wrote: To me, protection implies fear.
I put a helmet on when I ride my motorcycle, I guess that implies fear on my part?
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/10/02/0111200/to-encourage-biking-lose-the-helmets
To Encourage Biking, Lose the Helmets
Quote:Elisabeth Rosenthal writes that in the United States the notion that bike helmets promote health and safety by preventing head injuries is taken as pretty near God's truth but many European health experts have taken a very different view. 'Yes, there are studies that show that if you fall off a bicycle at a certain speed and hit your head, a helmet can reduce your risk of serious head injury,' writes Rosenthal. 'But such falls off bikes are rare — exceedingly so in mature urban cycling systems.' On the other hand, many researchers say, if you force people to wear helmets, you discourage them from riding bicycles causing more health problems like obesity, heart disease, and diabetes. Bicycling advocates say that the problem with pushing helmets isn't practicality but that helmets make a basically safe activity seem really dangerous, which makes it harder to develop a safe bicycling network like the one in New York City, where a bike-sharing program is to open next year. The safest biking cities are places like Amsterdam and Copenhagen, where middle-aged commuters are mainstay riders and the fraction of adults in helmets is minuscule. 'Pushing helmets really kills cycling and bike-sharing in particular because it promotes a sense of danger that just isn't justified — in fact, cycling has many health benefits,' says Piet de Jong. 'Statistically, if we wear helmets for cycling, maybe we should wear helmets when we climb ladders or get into a bath, because there are lots more injuries during those activities.
RE: Why do we have to ask for protection daily? - Meerie - 10-02-2012
Here I sometimes observe males cycling like crazy, overtaking others in risky maneuvres, wearing helmets
They probably think "duh I am wearing a helmet, nothing can happen to me".
I never wear one and I have never hurt myself while cycling (but then I have been ridiculed for cycling slowly
) but these people put themselves and others at risk just cuz helmets are oh so safe.And no they aren't, some dude broke his neck despite the helmet.
So ask yourself before using protection, could you change your behavior to minimize the risk? Then maybe the helmet aka protection wouldn't be needed in the first place
RE: Why do we have to ask for protection daily? - BrownEye - 10-04-2012
If you are sky diving do you put a parachute on because of fear?
Wait, fear would keep you from doing that in the first place.
RE: Why do we have to ask for protection daily? - Richard - 10-04-2012
Nowadays when you see a child riding a bike...he is geared up like a pro with padded this and that. My brother and I grew up riding our bikes barefooted throughout the summers. Sure, we got scraped up from time to time, stubbed our toes....but it was just part of the deal. Part of growing up.
Times change, I guess.
RE: Why do we have to ask for protection daily? - caycegal - 10-04-2012
Dear Friends,
How do you know you have received a psychic greeting?
Among all the things that can be going on in my monkey mind, how do I distinguish a psychic greeting from other things such as:
1. karmic events
2. negative mental habits I may have created by practicing negative thinking
3. the moods of others in my environment touching my aura
4. a great disturbance in the Force
Thanks!
P.S. I believe that our friends, acquaintances and family can send out negative energy that affects us a lot. I think it's important to learn how to protect from that as well as from possible psychic greetings from other realms.
RE: Why do we have to ask for protection daily? - Aaron - 10-04-2012
caycegal, there have been two times recently that I can think of in which I have been the recipient of a pshychic greeting, and it's pretty obvious most of the time that it's coming from another entitity.
The first time was when I was spending some time with friends after smoking a particular substance that tends to increase one's psychic sensitivity and openness. I felt a huge shift in the energy around me, a strong left ear tone and a sick, uneasy feeling. I felt cold and nauseous, and the blood began draining from my face. I felt as if I were going to pass out.
The other time occurred during the middle of the night when I was woken up in a fear and panic to feel something rushing towards me. I felt myself become overwhelmingly flooded by a disruptive, uncomfortable energy thar sent my system haywire, and it was all I could do to shout mentally "Q'uo help!" Or "Latwii, help!" They buffered me against the ravaging energy and the presence moved out of my field and directly in front of my face, focusing intense hatred and anger towards me. With the protection, I had the space and peace of mind necessary to practice love and acceptance of this entity. Nothing was there physically except an unmistakable presence. And when I closed my eyes, I could see a very, very bright light with my third eye.
This post may be a little strange and short because I'm stuck on my phone at the moment, rather than a computer.
RE: Why do we have to ask for protection daily? - AnthroHeart - 10-04-2012
When I get a psychic greeting that's more intense, I usually hallucinate negative stuff.
I've smelled, tasted, and felt sensations as well during these times that were unsettling.
RE: Why do we have to ask for protection daily? - caycegal - 10-04-2012
(09-20-2012, 08:57 AM)Patrick Wrote: Another option is that you are supposed to get the greetings so that you process some of the fears you have repressed.
Please explain what you mean by processing fears. I am imagining that you mean to think or feel them without attempting to protect or defend against them, simply accepting them as part of everything, which is ok.
(09-24-2012, 10:38 AM)Patrick Wrote:(09-23-2012, 09:51 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(09-23-2012, 09:41 PM)Patrick Wrote: On the STO path, you can still evolve while having much more distortions than on the STS path, simply because you can rely on other selves to fill in the gaps of your self.Had to respond to this notion. Others don't fill in your gaps - that'd be an infringement of free will and diminish ones contribution to creation. "It is impossible to help another being directly. It is only possible to make catalyst available in whatever form, the most important being the radiation of realization of oneness with the Creator from the self, less important being information such as we share with you."
Even in STO, you can't surrogate your evolution. Not asking for help is not a STS act, it's taking some degree of responsibility for your self (we're already borrowing just about everything *except* what we manage to create) when there is a choice in the matter. Offering help is indeed a STO act (whether or not it is wise or acceptable or useful to another). Accepting help is either STS or STO (whether or not it is wise or acceptable or useful).
It is possible to help another being directly IF they directly ask for this.
Probably just a question of semantics, but here is what I meant.
Quote:72.7 ...We may note that such a configuration of free will, one-pointed in service to others, also has the potential for the alerting of a great mass of light strength. This positive light strength, however, operates also under free will and must be invoked. We could not speak to this and shall not guide you, for the nature of this contact is such that the purity of your free will must, above all things, be preserved. Thus you wend your way through experiences discovering those biases which may be helpful.
"...Others don't fill in your gaps - that'd be an infringement of free will and diminish ones contribution to creation..."
Since there is only One, when we are in veiled 3d, there is much more of our Self in other Selves than within the aware Self that we think we are.
What about the "one hundredth monkey effect"? I understand this to be the idea that as more and more of us units who comprise the mass consciousness reach a certain level it becomes easier and easier for others in the group to experience that same level. Do you have any comments or thoughts about this idea?
RE: Why do we have to ask for protection daily? - Patrick - 10-04-2012
(10-04-2012, 01:34 AM)Pickle Wrote: If you are sky diving do you put a parachute on because of fear?
Wait, fear would keep you from doing that in the first place.
But that's like bicycling without the bike. We can parachute without a helmet though.
(10-04-2012, 11:35 AM)Bring4th_Aaron Wrote: ...
The other time occurred during the middle of the night when I was woken up in a fear and panic to feel something rushing towards me. I felt myself become overwhelmingly flooded by a disruptive, uncomfortable energy thar sent my system haywire, and it was all I could do to shout mentally "Q'uo help!" Or "Latwii, help!" They buffered me against the ravaging energy and the presence moved out of my field and directly in front of my face, focusing intense hatred and anger towards me. With the protection, I had the space and peace of mind necessary to practice love and acceptance of this entity. Nothing was there physically except an unmistakable presence. And when I closed my eyes, I could see a very, very bright light with my third eye...
That's pretty much how I get psychic greetings too. Except that now when they enter my fields, I feel much less fear than before. I simply know that I am protected by love.
(10-04-2012, 11:42 AM)caycegal Wrote:(09-20-2012, 08:57 AM)Patrick Wrote: Another option is that you are supposed to get the greetings so that you process some of the fears you have repressed.
Please explain what you mean by processing fears. I am imagining that you mean to think or feel them without attempting to protect or defend against them, simply accepting them as part of everything, which is ok.
You are already protected by love and nothing can harm you. So you let the fear go. Easier said than done, but the more you do it the less fear you have each time.
(10-04-2012, 11:42 AM)caycegal Wrote:(09-24-2012, 10:38 AM)Patrick Wrote:(09-23-2012, 09:51 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(09-23-2012, 09:41 PM)Patrick Wrote: On the STO path, you can still evolve while having much more distortions than on the STS path, simply because you can rely on other selves to fill in the gaps of your self.Had to respond to this notion. Others don't fill in your gaps - that'd be an infringement of free will and diminish ones contribution to creation. "It is impossible to help another being directly. It is only possible to make catalyst available in whatever form, the most important being the radiation of realization of oneness with the Creator from the self, less important being information such as we share with you."
Even in STO, you can't surrogate your evolution. Not asking for help is not a STS act, it's taking some degree of responsibility for your self (we're already borrowing just about everything *except* what we manage to create) when there is a choice in the matter. Offering help is indeed a STO act (whether or not it is wise or acceptable or useful to another). Accepting help is either STS or STO (whether or not it is wise or acceptable or useful).
It is possible to help another being directly IF they directly ask for this.
Probably just a question of semantics, but here is what I meant.
Quote:72.7 ...We may note that such a configuration of free will, one-pointed in service to others, also has the potential for the alerting of a great mass of light strength. This positive light strength, however, operates also under free will and must be invoked. We could not speak to this and shall not guide you, for the nature of this contact is such that the purity of your free will must, above all things, be preserved. Thus you wend your way through experiences discovering those biases which may be helpful.
"...Others don't fill in your gaps - that'd be an infringement of free will and diminish ones contribution to creation..."
Since there is only One, when we are in veiled 3d, there is much more of our Self in other Selves than within the aware Self that we think we are.
What about the "one hundredth monkey effect"? I understand this to be the idea that as more and more of us units who comprise the mass consciousness reach a certain level it becomes easier and easier for others in the group to experience that same level. Do you have any comments or thoughts about this idea?
Probably and this only makes us more aware and so more aware of our Self in others. But my meaning is more that we are infinity and that here in veiled 3d we are only aware of an unimaginably small part of who we are. This aware 3d Self and the rest of Creation is One. So that is why I say that much more of our Self is in others.
RE: Why do we have to ask for protection daily? - Conifer16 - 10-04-2012
(09-20-2012, 08:38 AM)Jim Kent + Wrote: Greetings sisters and brothers,you ask for protection? i'm really confused? we are always protected :-)
I, like so many of us here, frequently experience "psychic greetings", which for me, now only occour in my dreams.
When these "greetings" take their toll on my mental / emotional state, I am reminded that all I have to do is ask for protection before I go to sleep.
But that protection only lasts for one night and if I forget to ask for that protection every night, the protection seems to vanish!
What is a about our Human existence that requires us to ask for protection on a daily basis?
I would appreciate any thoughts you may have.
L & L
Jim
asking for protection would seem to me a great way to lower your own shields and inner strength to let guides help you. which IMO just increases the likely hood of being "attacked". i haven't read this whole thread yet so i might be repeating people, sorry :-) not intentional. anyway yeah :-)
I have never asked for protection. the few times i have been "attacked" my guides have always dealt with it swiftly and powerfully. the one time i consciously remember being "attacked" i was half asleep and seeing my room while awake and asleep and my view kept moving between "dream" realm and "real" realm. and there was a terrible dark energy slowly agonizingly slowly coming towards me and my sister guide put her hand on my shoulder sending a jolt of heat through me and waking me up. and then the cold room heated up and i knew that the dark energy had been "banished" and my guides were there. i had no trouble sleeping :-)
RE: Why do we have to ask for protection daily? - zenmaster - 10-04-2012
(10-04-2012, 11:42 AM)caycegal Wrote: What about the "one hundredth monkey effect"? I understand this to be the idea that as more and more of us units who comprise the mass consciousness reach a certain level it becomes easier and easier for others in the group to experience that same level. Do you have any comments or thoughts about this idea?The hundredth monkey effect is merely when a deeper layer of mind, which is local, offers a pattern which then may be consciously expressed by those seeking in that particular area. It's totally unconscious.