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RE: A Fourth Choice - Observer - 05-10-2012 (05-10-2012, 10:55 AM)Valtor Wrote:(05-10-2012, 10:46 AM)Observer Wrote:(05-10-2012, 10:36 AM)Valtor Wrote: That is why only slightly more than 50% STO is enough to be STO. I am currently at 51% and I feel this to be well balanced. Nearly without polarity, simply means well balanced in wisdom and compassion for ALL, self and other self. Dowsing? Pickle told me about this once. RE: A Fourth Choice - Joseph326 - 05-10-2012 Casey, I feel that I understand what you are saying. I will share a few thoughts about polarity. Take from this what you will. There is, from a certain perspective, absolutely no way in which any action does not serve both the Self, all other Selves, and the entirety of Creation. The observation of the actual motion between choices allows enough continuity of direction for the concept of polarity to apply. Within every moment point the entirety of the Infinite One resides, peering out/in through various filters of its choosing. In response to the thoughts you shared regarding the ability to shift from one reality to another at will..you do this constantly from moment to moment. The brain is wired to do this on autopilot, with some practice it is possible to train it into awareness of its own processes as you shift between frequencies. As you begin to see the various layers of reality and the shifting processes, you may come to realize jus how many choices you truly have. And that they all exist simultaneously as the Whole of you. RE: A Fourth Choice - Patrick - 05-10-2012 (05-10-2012, 01:46 PM)Observer Wrote:(05-10-2012, 10:55 AM)Valtor Wrote:(05-10-2012, 10:46 AM)Observer Wrote:(05-10-2012, 10:36 AM)Valtor Wrote: That is why only slightly more than 50% STO is enough to be STO. I am currently at 51% and I feel this to be well balanced. Nearly without polarity, simply means well balanced in wisdom and compassion for ALL, self and other self. Actually that number was dowsed by Pickle. ![]() RE: A Fourth Choice - Liet - 05-10-2012 (05-10-2012, 02:49 PM)Valtor Wrote: Actually that number was dowsed by Pickle. The more equal the activity of your green and yellow rays, the more commonplace it will be to see a hexagon when you close your eyes. (if you can see such things to begin with) RE: A Fourth Choice - 3DMonkey - 05-10-2012 How I see it... "1) A leap beyond the densities of polarization directly into unity at any point within the current lifetime." The moment this question is pondered is the same moment that the density of polarization choice manifests. "2) Potential graduation [walking the steps of light] through dematerialization- the current reality frame is simply stepped out of." Dematerialization if of a body. This electronic device [your computer] could be here materially or it may not, the mind thinks it is here but the mind isn't the proof that it is here, to the mind, it is only a thought. The mind can think that the body has material or that it doesn't, so everything can Dematerialize in this way, but the mind will never be the body. "3) This path is continued with absolutely no loss of consciousness to [or beyond] what Ra terms as the eighth." Loss of consciousness? That's relative to the thought of the moment. "Took you thought today" - Ra RE: A Fourth Choice - seejay21 - 05-10-2012 I'm going to go out on a limb here. ![]() The most beautiful "lesson" of this density is love. Unconditional love. When you discover that within yourself, and how you are connected to everything you actually lay polarity aside, 100%. WARNING: This is not easy. Shedding polarity, and judgement is the "joke" of the ascension process, and provides the "work" (catalyst) that is required. It's a cleverly devised joke, and you are playing it on yourself. You can't ascend unless you ponder polarity, and play the game. It's the key tool to discovering. I think that your 4th choice, is actually the only choice. Reposting this in hopes someone will indeed reply - omcasey - 05-10-2012 (05-09-2012, 09:48 PM)omcasey Wrote: Quote: Would anyone more familiar with the Ra material than I please give commentary on this? I am assuming they mean the seventh through the sixth chakras? Also, what is a practical working definition of intelligent infinity? What, specifically, would someone who has accessed it be experiencing? Would the one reaching for it be exhibiting signs? Can you intuit what these might be? in gratitude for your assistance, Casey . Attempting to bring this into focus Hello, everyone.. I appreciate you letting me take a moment to be clear. The information I am looking for in regard to my queries pertains to the Ra GROUP'S insight-- into 1) awakening/ascending in this lifetime, prior to and in lue of any death scenario, directly into unity. In relation to this, the next query, in regard to anything the Ra GROUP has shared, is 2) whether or not this feat would require a different focus than intentionally polarizing, in the way of those graduating into 4D. I ask this because I do not see how intentionally polarizing could ever help shift one directly beyond polarization. On the matter of what I am calling 'a fourth choice' [making a leap from 3D beyond the densities of polarization directly into unity], I am satisfied by the collective replies that is not gone into at any length in the Material. Thank you, Austin, for your original post, it continues to be incredibly helpful. And thank you to those who have supplied relevant quotes, this has also been of great assistance. Liet, You said: "Maximizing polarization only gets you so far (end of 4th density)...". Is this idea from you?, or from the Ra material. If the latter, is it possible for you to supply relevant quotes?, this would be helpful. in gratitude, Casey RE: Reposting this in hopes someone will indeed reply - seejay21 - 05-10-2012 (05-10-2012, 08:52 PM)omcasey Wrote: Would anyone more familiar with the Ra material than I please give commentary on this? I am assuming they mean the seventh through the sixth chakras? Also, what is a practical working definition of intelligent infinity? What, specifically, would someone who has accessed it be experiencing? Would the one reaching for it be exhibiting signs? Can you intuit what these might be? ahh.. ![]() As such, the "Ra Material" is incomplete. There are gaps. Ra didn't come from the depths of the universe and say "this is the truth of reality", he said, "ask me a question and I will answer it". Don's questions and Ra's answers are not divine. It's not a divine work, it's a historical account of questions and answers between two entities from different dimensions (cool enough in itself). You can search through the material and find many relevant clues (quotes), but YOUR answer is going to only come from within. One of the biggest obstacles in the Q and A sessions is the fact you can't articulate the nature of intelligent infinity and reality with common spoken words. It's basically imposible. You won't find the answer in any book, or on any Internet forum. You must experience it yourself to know, and even then, you won't be able to put it in words. When I first came to this forum, I posted this: http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=594 (i have some assention sypmtoms) I think when I posted this I was hoping someone would tell me what happened to me that night, and that someone "more familiar" with the Ra material would offer a divine explanation, and I would suddenly know my path. That hasn't happend to my original hope. I've discovered something more than that though. The truth of "me" is for "me" to discover for myself, and I wouldn't have it any other way. Holding the focus - omcasey - 05-11-2012 Seejay ![]() I have read, and am aware of what the Ra material is, and what it's limitations are. But my week-long devouring of the communications is not in par with those who have been studying and applying the material for far longer. I am asking for the information I am for reasons different to yourself. My purposes are more study and resource related, I simply wish to know if my query is something Ra went into. And, if so, how they went into it. I am already with all my own fundamental experiences and perspective, I am not looking to be influenced, I am looking for connections.. which are close enough to me to give me a sort of leg up. Thank you for helping me clarify this. Also~ it is not that other perspectives are unwelcome, it is that first and foremost I am looking to hear what Ra shared. Having offered this, if individual commentary then wishes to be given there is space for this. But as I am new here, and new to the Ra material if it could be stated which ideas are from Ra and which ideas are from others, this of course would be helpful. Casey RE: A Fourth Choice - 3DMonkey - 05-11-2012 "Also, what is a practical working definition of intelligent infinity? " I find this question hilarious. No offense whatsoever. The idea that there would be a unanimous "practical working definition" tickles me to no end. Intelligent Infinity - omcasey - 05-11-2012 3DMonkey Wrote:"Also, what is a practical working definition of intelligent infinity? ". 3DMonkey, We seem to have somewhat of a start simply with the reference to the eighth [8D?].. To your knowledge, did Ra ever give insight into what the meaning of 8D is to them? Would it be outside/beyond this universe?, this learning system. What are some other word equivalents one might use for the same thing? I am not going for anything complex here, just a simple, broad-working definition. Right now these words mean nothing to me. Give me some torque. Anyone. Casey RE: A Fourth Choice - godwide_void - 05-11-2012 The 8th Density is that level of consciousness which the One Infinite Creator exists at as the interconnected awareness and sustenance of all, birthing all things and being that which all things are assimilated into once more. It is the infinite and manifested creature which resulted as the first breath/sound/thought of the Source, being the mysterious, etheric architect and all-encompassing hyper-intelligence. This infinite Source, becoming aware through some unknown means, decided to create a focal point through which it may devise a means in which to manifest Itself. The being responsible for this expressing of the primary and linked forging attributes of creative manifestation, sustenance, and destruction is the completed being which comprises the 8th Density which is, as Ra also stated, the beginning of the 1st Density. It is the One in which all arises from and coalesces into, which exists above and beyond all things, which dwells deep within us and all which has being, and consequently being that which all things exist within. I speak from memory as I offer this visual description of the 8D: it is an omni-directionally ever-expanding void consisting of innumerable star systems which adorn each and every inch of it as crystalline jewels. These galactic gems form a visage resembling a face shaped as a throne, similar to a very stylized Easter Island statue head. Each moment which passes, this void expands, and new star systems flow outwards from the center to accommodate any space which becomes available. Though this process is powerfully chaotic, there is only deep and tranquil stillness which pervades this realm as the overarching feeling. To address some other points of yours; in regards to ascension within this lifetime as per your definitions of manifesting oneself in another density, relocating one's awareness there permanently, this is not possible and exists outside the scope of the 'rules' of this density, though one may temporarily revisit the density which they have stemmed from. One who has chosen to incarnate here and undergo experience of this dimension is as a creature of this dimension. Depending upon the origin of one's density or the stage of evolution which one's consciousness has reached, experiences, temporal or otherwise, may be achieved as that consciousness, having originated from higher realms and not of a lower form, would have certain permissible slips, capabilities and factors which would entail a greater degree of resources one may draw upon, enter into and work with. However, be that as it may, the 3rd Density remains the 3rd Density, and regardless if one is from the 5th Density or higher, the veil of metaphysical amnesia is still in place subjecting us to a 'quarantined' and restrictive state. One may 'ascend' inasmuch as the boundaries of this realm allows it. The degree to which one may ascend who is native to this planetary sphere is probably akin to those yogis and other assorted spiritual master's levels. Those of originally higher densities hold in latent potentiation a gamut of attributes which may be expressed through this form given one learns how to access and activate them. There is ascension for 3D entities, though it is not in the way which you view it as of vanishing and materializing into another realm of existence. The point in which consciousness will evolve is essentially around the corner, so while ascension is a nice prospect to achieve here, it pales in comparison to the meta-ascension which this world will undergo. Quote:Also, what is a practical working definition of intelligent infinity? What, specifically, would someone who has accessed it be experiencing? Would the one reaching for it be exhibiting signs? Can you intuit what these might be? I would define intelligent infinity as the perhaps formless, oceanic essence which is the hyper-intelligent coding that formulates the entirety of the megacosm, from macrocosm to microcosm, Creator and Creation, the process of all; the Source, as has been termed. Where the One Infinite Creator is what dwells behind the awareness of all sentient beings, acting as the various perspectives of consciousness, the Source is that digital coding which has created these various programs of "awareness", "consciousness", "intelligence", etc. I will direct you to a revealing Ra quote: Quote:15.7 Questioner: What is the greatest service that our population on this planet could perform individually? Carefully consider that which I have outlined. Those who fixate their gaze beyond this illusion and solidify the volition to seek the Creator, God, what have you, the moment in which this seeking has begun is the moment in which the Creator has begun devising and implementing the plans in which to allow this goal to come to fruition. Be it through prayer, meditation, contemplation, keeping pious thoughts in the fore and background of one's mind, active service, any manner of seeking the Creator will beget the beginning harmonization of one's beingness with a connective functionality with Intelligent Infinity. You query upon the signs and experiences of one who is "one with infinite intelligence". These symptoms are entirely circumstantial, though I will offer a vague generalization: finding oneself instantly 'knowing' things previously unknown, a feeling of being able to manipulate one's surroundings through the mind alone, observing that one's thoughts are, without impediment, leading to manifestation of circumstances, people and/or events. Observing a highly rapid evolution in one's spiritual progress, noticing that revelatory signs are much abound, astoundingly frequent, and follow an intricately and intelligently designed order. The one who is with infinite intelligence is the one who is able to participate in the waltz with the Universe in sync, and in a modern sense would best be considered a "reality hacker". I will leave you with one thing that you would do well to muse upon: all outwards seeking leads back to the inner destination. RE: A Fourth Choice - omcasey - 05-11-2012 Godwide, thank you for your reply.. I will read through it in the morning. I just love synchronicity.. I was just stopping by to say I was listening to Carla on the ZanyMystic show and she gave Ra's definition of Intelligent Infinity and the One Infinite Creator. So, yes!, wonderful, one more down. woo hoo ![]() Casey RE: Reposting this in hopes someone will indeed reply - Liet - 05-11-2012 (05-10-2012, 08:52 PM)omcasey Wrote: Liet, Quote:Questioner: In the last session you made the statement that “We, that is Ra, spent much time/space in the fifth-density balancing the intense compassion that we had gained in the fourth-density.” Could you expand on this concept with respect to the material you just discussed? Quote:Ra: I am Ra. In fifth-density harvest, polarization has very little to do with harvestability. RE: A Fourth Choice - Patrick - 05-11-2012 Ra did state that BEFORE there was polarities in the sense of STO and STS, there was only STO. The veil created a new path, the STS path, STO was not created with the veil, STO was always there. STO is all inclusive. So STO includes this fourth choice of not playing the defense game against STS. STO is acceptance of all that is. Once you find your Self out of the polarity realms, you find your Self in STO automatically. RE: A Fourth Choice - Plenum - 05-11-2012 (05-07-2012, 10:38 PM)omcasey Wrote: Along with the idea of 1) not choosing [to polarize], 2) choosing service to others, 3) choosing service to self, there is option 4) choosing to make a leap beyond the densities of polarization directly into unity. I have heard Carla speak of, at the moment of death 'walking the steps of light', stopping where it feels the most comfortable. But what is the Ra group's Insight into awakening/ascending in this lifetime, prior to and in lue of any death scenario?.. and do they speak of this fourth option in what they share. It certainly does feel to my choice. It seems far more central, and imperative in my case to focus on improving the quality of [my] consciousness through entropy / fear reduction, a natural by-product of which is clearly a service to all. From Ra's perspective would this fourth choice be valid. What is probable and possible in their eyes? I think we all serve the Creator, in our own way. I mean, think of a worm in the soil, wriggling around after a rainstorm. That is service. think of your microwave oven heating food up. That is service. think of you typing this post. That is service. we cannot know the repercussions of each thought or action we take here in 3d; there are echoes that ripple through time and space. it is all service, and all benefit. RE: A Fourth Choice - omcasey - 05-11-2012 This is understood ![]() Valtor, post coming to you soon, gotta start the day! first Casey RE: A Fourth Choice - godwide_void - 05-11-2012 Manage to read through my post yet, casey? (05-11-2012, 02:25 AM)omcasey Wrote: Godwide, thank you for your reply.. I will read through it in the morning. Did it provide an adequate answer to your query? ![]() RE: A Fourth Choice - omcasey - 05-11-2012 Godwide.. Yes, thank you for filling in the blank on Intelligent Infinity =ing the One Infinite Creator, this has been of assistance and contributed to further resolution. I appreciate you addressing this element of my query. The paragraph related to ascension [as I am here defining it] in this lifetime I will carry over into a thread of it's own. I do not wish to confuse the focus here. The collective energy has resulted in a near complete manifestation of the data I am requesting. Valtor, Valtor Wrote:Ra did state that BEFORE there was polarities in the sense of STO and STS, there was only STO. The veil created a new path, the STS path, STO was not created with the veil, STO was always there. STO is all inclusive. So STO includes this fourth choice of not playing the defense game against STS. STO is acceptance of all that is. Once you find your Self out of the polarity realms, you find your Self in STO automatically. It is possible I may be able to bring a relevant point of focus within my query into fuller view. For much the same reasons as MAN being used to denote the fundamental, ie: 'that which came first', and WOMAN to denote an offshoot, as is common to our current historical record, the pattern you bring forth does not work for me. It carries too much stigma. As a sub-pattern of understanding it could be said to have it's purpose, but as a fundamental, or universal pattern it is skewed [which I say in all evenness and with respect]. There are multiple considerations. The first is that the concept MAN can be used to denote the whole of the dominant local species, as well as be used to denote the male polarity. The same with STO, it can be used to denote the essential seed energy of the All That Is, as well as be used to denote a particular range of distortion of such within the various dimensional frequencies. Employing the same term to denote both the fundamental and one chosen aspect of the created is fine, but it carries the capacity to be confusing. A person communicating with such a pattern clearly must see and have integrated the distinct uses and applications. Otherwise, there is incompleteness and incorrectness in what is put forth. This pattern also carries the capacity for imbalance, for within the densities of polarity there is a resulting unfairness to the remaining polarity. In the example of man/woman, those currently expressing through the female polarity can likely somewhat unanimously attest to this. The bias toward the vernacular of the male polarity [MAN] being chosen and used to denote the fundamental [/greater] will more often be a potentially harming sort of trigger. Much dust will be created to first work through and clear, prior to even the remotest, true communication and understanding between self and other selves. The pattern I wish to receive will carry far less dust. In redirecting my attention now to your precise thought, "BEFORE there was polarities in the sense of STO and STS, there was only STO. The veil created a new path, the STS path.." I would find to be more accurate, that originally there was STO in the sense of it being used to denote the seed energy of the All That Is, and the veil created the distortion of the polarities of the STO and STS paths; this latter distorted STO being distinct from the prior. The distinction being seen and duly noted, there is now balance. I hope this comes through clearly, and helps in accurately receiving where I am coming from.., Casey RE: A Fourth Choice - Patrick - 05-11-2012 Yes it's much clearer this way and I do agree with you. I like your analogy to male and female polarities. This opens the door for a better understanding of the other type of polarities. Since you seem interested about what Ra said on the concept of polarities in general, I will share my personal understanding of it in relation to male and female. It is true that our current octave as a whole has been designed with polarity in mind and the path back to the Creator being the uniting of all these polarities. But what I was referring to in my previous post is that according to Ra, STS was never planned for. It was a big surprise. It's not part of the design of this octave of experience. The difference with male and female is substantial. According to Ra, male and female are actually harvested concepts from the previous octave, as is positive and negative, and are central to our current octave. STS was never even thought of as a possibility before it was actually experienced and could never ever have been experienced without the introduction of the veil in 3rd density. The veil being the illusion of separation. Without the veil all is aware that all is One. All is aware of their connection. The veil is relatively "recent". It is also true that talking of STO without STS can be meaningless. For me, what I call the STO path includes the path that was available before STS became a reality and the path that continues after we have unified these polarities. Without this I would, like you, say that a 4th choice is indeed available. In these quotes we can see that Ra says that before the veil there was no STO and no STS, but in some of these quotes Ra also use the terminology STO to refer to what there was before the veil. It's certainly a very vast subject. ![]() Quote:78.10 Questioner: I realize that we are on very difficult ground, you might say, for precise terminology. It is totally displaced from our system of coordinates for evaluation in our present system of language. RE: A Fourth Choice - omcasey - 05-11-2012 Valtor, Thank you for your feedback.. I am pleased to hear I am coming through more clearly. The male/female example I employed, just to put it to paper, was for the sole purpose clarity; it was felt this example allowed more understanding to come through regarding the capacity for imbalance. To be very precise, rather than the broad concept of polarity in general, it is the idea of intentional polarization toward either STO or STS for the purpose of graduation that I am interested in. To bring it in even nearer to me, the interest is to whether it is or is not applicable to me in my current situation and state of experience. Then, ultimately, if yes, how so. These last bits are for me to know from within myself. The immediate task - for me - is to come into a fuller understanding and relationship with the concept. Which with the combined help of everyone here I am indeed doing. with my sincerest appreciation.., Casey RE: A Fourth Choice - Patrick - 05-11-2012 Yes indeed, why must we choose STO or STS to graduate from 3d ? It's a good question. ![]() Graduation from 3d has also been described by Ra as how much love/light you are able to work with. Maybe this is a more useful avenue of inquiry. IMHO these quotes may help answer. Particularly the last answer of that session. Quote:82.12 Questioner: I was interested specifically in how this very first division showed up in this octave. I was interested to know if it made the transition through first, second, third, fourth, etc. densities? I would like to take the first mind/body/spirit complexes and trace their experience from the very start to the present so that I could better understand the condition that we are in now by comparing it with this original growth. Could you please tell me precisely how this came about as to the formation of the planets and growth through the densities, if that is the way it happened, please? RE: A Fourth Choice - 3DMonkey - 05-11-2012 (05-11-2012, 08:03 PM)omcasey Wrote: Valtor, Consider one of your thoughts, any thought. There are many facets involved in this one thought. This thought could contain memories, biases, projections, persons, etc. These are entities, and these entities are others. From this point, you have a choice of where to direct your service. If to others, you accept these entities as part of you, integrate them, love them, attempt to give them moral support, etc. If to self, you control which entities are allowed into your being, reject them as separate, attempt to push them away, etc. RE: A Fourth Choice - Confused - 05-12-2012 Quote:41.16 Questioner: And then what entity would be the simplest that would have red, orange, yellow, and green rays activated? Quote:3.10 Questioner: Then if an individual is totally informed with respect to the Law of One and lives the Law of One, then such things as the building of the pyramids by direct mental effort would be commonplace. Is that what I am to understand? Quote:77.17 Questioner: Would it be possible for this work of our density to be performed if all of the sub-Logoi chose the same polarity in any particular expression or evolution of a Logos? Let us make the assumption that our sun created nothing but, through the first distortion, positive polarity. There was no product except positive polarity. Would work then be done in fourth density and higher as a function of only the positive polarization evolving from the original creation of our sub-Logos? RE: A Fourth Choice - Cyan - 05-12-2012 (05-11-2012, 12:22 PM)godwide_void Wrote: Manage to read through my post yet, casey? Yes it did, thank you =) RE: A Fourth Choice - AndresOr - 05-14-2012 (05-11-2012, 08:03 PM)omcasey Wrote: Valtor, hi casey, well i won't quote Ra's or Carla's (Jim talks rarely) word, but i will use a sinthesis of his teaching, harvest in this case from 3d to 4d came more naturally after the dead process, a normal 3d native does not have the ability to do what you describe, they need polarization, them you will go to time/space and take the step of light, whether if it is sto or sts, it is the same thing, been able to handle more speed of rotation of the photon, if you can not, them you come back to 3d. What you are describing in the process of dematerialization from this 3d space/time, i believe it is perfectly possibly to do this, it is matter of having the ability to do it, i believe that it is have nothing to do with harvest (end of this mayor cicle), it is a power that you achieve, and i believe that you will be going to 3d time/space, them changing bodies indigo or violet, them reviewing the incarnation (or the other way around), and going where you will need to go, if you were a 3d native, you will go to 4d, but clearly you seem to be a 6d wanderer, normally you them will go to your home density. But remember that to say "going straight to unity" it is not really so, it is a process of transformation in the mecanical sense (many energies), so maybe you are thinking too generally. Namaste, light and love to you, as always sorry for my english, i can not express clear enough my answer. RE: A Fourth Choice - omcasey - 05-14-2012 Hi, Andres.. Your delivery is very good, I am understanding you well and send thanks.. There are a couple really interesting points here, and I feel you have helped me understand the concept of harvest a bit more accurately. I experience dematerialization from within the [other] dimensions on a regular basis, it is my primary mode of transport, as it were, when traveling.. and I have also been let to experience, to a particular degree, dematerialization [DISappearing] from my physical location. It has been suggested to me that I am putting a 'governor' on myself, for the time being, from going any further with this because were I to go all the way with it now the probability is that I would not return to complete what is still yet to do. I understand from within myself this to be true. But one day soon I will be done and this will be my mode of departure. It is why I have been put through the training / trial runs and let to sample the experience. It is intriguing to me that you say "..and i believe that you will be going to 3d time/space, them changing bodies indigo or violet, them reviewing the incarnation (or the other way around), and going where you will need to go..".. May I ask why you believe this?, do you have particular experience, or inner communication that relays this to you. Or is it something Ra has put through. I ask because of how closely it matches a recent experience. I am reviewed periodically, I shift consciously into them, remain conscious throughout, and am oftentimes let to retain the awareness having shifted back into this reality. So I am curious what has you say this. Thank you for anything you can share.., Casey RE: A Fourth Choice - Patrick - 05-14-2012 (05-14-2012, 06:41 PM)omcasey Wrote: ...Or is it something Ra has put through... I can confirm that this is pretty much how Ra described what happens after our incarnation. ![]() RE: A Fourth Choice - omcasey - 05-14-2012 Hi, Valtor.. In regard to the bodies indigo or violet, can you offer more commentary?, or supply links to Ra's insight. thank you!, Casey RE: A Fourth Choice - Patrick - 05-14-2012 My pleasure. ![]() Quote:47.9 Questioner: Which bodies do we have immediately after physical death from this yellow-ray body that I now am in? |