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RE: Pole Shift -> Hyper Evolution? - 3DMonkey - 03-30-2011
(03-30-2011, 10:25 AM)unity100 Wrote: the entity does not need to perceive things with its brain - mind/spirit will be able to observe and perceive things. actually that is the root of most paranormal phenomenon observations - some see them some dont.Absolutely correct. The brain is the body complex operator and processor of what comes from mind and spirit. That's why dreams seem odd, they are processed through the brain and physical imagery (the only thing the brain is capable of) abounds in dreams when it is actually spirit "work".
The 3D brain is a major player in facilitating the veil.
RE: Pole Shift -> Hyper Evolution? - zenmaster - 03-31-2011
(03-30-2011, 10:25 AM)unity100 Wrote: the entity does not need to perceive things with its brain - mind/spirit will be able to observe and perceive things. actually that is the root of most paranormal phenomenon observations - some see them some dont.And some people hallucinate and some don't. Some people are fantasy prone, and others are not.
Perception and thought are different functions. What's really 'paranormal'? It's a non-word, communicating little. What does 'seeing things' mean? What one differentiates or integrates from observation in order to form useful experience, does matter because decisions are based on experience. What's at the root of 'paranormal' observations is the exact same thing which is at the root of 'normal' observations - just directed consciousness.
RE: Pole Shift -> Hyper Evolution? - unity100 - 03-31-2011
(03-31-2011, 12:57 AM)zenmaster Wrote:(03-30-2011, 10:25 AM)unity100 Wrote: the entity does not need to perceive things with its brain - mind/spirit will be able to observe and perceive things. actually that is the root of most paranormal phenomenon observations - some see them some dont.And some people hallucinate and some don't. Some people are fantasy prone, and others are not.
and we dont know whether the hallucinations of these people are or are not actual happenings in other realities, or future or the past.
Quote:Perception and thought are different functions. What's really 'paranormal'? It's a non-word, communicating little. What does 'seeing things' mean? What one differentiates or integrates from observation in order to form useful experience, does matter because decisions are based on experience. What's at the root of 'paranormal' observations is the exact same thing which is at the root of 'normal' observations - just directed consciousness.
paranormal in our context means beyond normal measurement and examination means for our empirical science.
and moreover, if you boil it down to directed consciousness, then indeed it becomes rather trivial to conclude that as consciousness can exist on its own and even without a body, or even a spirit, it is also able to perceive and think. (therefore has potential)
RE: Pole Shift -> Hyper Evolution? - Nyu - 06-09-2011
Forgive my ignorance, I had a thought last night though in meditation as I was asking about the earth's transition into 4D. Is it possible that the "veil" is our magnetic shield? If that disappears in the pole shift - if that is what the big event is in 2011/2012 (whichever date it ends up being) - then not only will we mutate/die quickly from radiation but if that is the physical manifestation of the veil, and it is lifted, this could be the change in consciousness that is meant to occur? Maybe we will happily die because we will finally see the truth. The increased solar flares seem to be playing with our emotions in a big way so I feel there may be some logic in this, but even if we decided to stay we would die anyway because of the radiation but would miss out on the harvest? Also the material always says that this one is the "third and final harvest" - so after this there will be no more opportunities for it on this planet..
RE: Pole Shift -> Hyper Evolution? - zenmaster - 06-09-2011
(06-09-2011, 05:03 PM)Nyu Wrote: Is it possible that the "veil" is our magnetic shield?The veil is unrelated to the magnetosphere. Remember 2D is unveiled (but also not self-aware). The veil is a function of the 3D m/b/s complex - or Carla's 'personality shell'.
RE: Pole Shift -> Hyper Evolution? - Nyu - 06-09-2011
D'oh! Thought I was onto something there haha
RE: Pole Shift -> Hyper Evolution? - zenmaster - 06-09-2011
(06-09-2011, 08:48 PM)Nyu Wrote: D'oh! Thought I was onto something there hahaI think we'd all be dead pretty quick without a magnetosphere, and many miles down beneath the surface. Oceans would evaporate, so no water for a while. (apparently, the latest theories hold that atmosphere would not escape into space). But no life, or seeds, nothing with which to regrow a desolate world in the short term - millions of years probably.
RE: Pole Shift -> Hyper Evolution? - Bring4th_Austin - 06-09-2011
(06-09-2011, 08:54 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(06-09-2011, 08:48 PM)Nyu Wrote: D'oh! Thought I was onto something there hahaI think we'd all be dead pretty quick without a magnetosphere, and many miles down beneath the surface. Oceans would evaporate, so no water for a while. (apparently, the latest theories hold that atmosphere would not escape into space). But no life, or seeds, nothing with which to regrow a desolate world in the short term - millions of years probably.
Yeah, since the conception of this thread I've questioned pretty heavily my friends' professors' words.
Unlessssss....yes unless the magnetosphere only SOMEWHAT disappears?! Only enough to let us evolve X-men style superpowers!!
RE: Pole Shift -> Hyper Evolution? - zenmaster - 06-09-2011
I think that whole notion DNA evolving from light source comes from comics, but it's also rampant in new-age material. Something tells me it's the sci-fi lover's in them that propagate a lot of the ideas - well much that is unprovable yet remotely plausible and inspiring or prejudice satisfying in some way - like how rumors and conspiracy theories thrive. But we do have UV rays playing a role genetic mutations, apparently - frogs with extra limbs for example.
RE: Pole Shift -> Hyper Evolution? - Bring4th_Austin - 06-09-2011
Frogs with extra limbs -> shooting lightning from my fingers....doesn't seem like too far of a stretch.
David Wilcock promises we'll have superpowers come 2012...I suppose it's an easy sell if people really want it to be true.
RE: Pole Shift -> Hyper Evolution? - 3DMonkey - 06-09-2011
I just watched the new xmen movie today. Talk about versions of history. I think we should all agree on that version for future generations. LOL. It a much cooler, mind expanding concept of historic events
. Not too different than annunaki and Zeus.
RE: Pole Shift -> Hyper Evolution? - zenmaster - 06-10-2011
(06-09-2011, 11:23 PM)abridgetoofar Wrote: Frogs with extra limbs -> shooting lightning from my fingers....doesn't seem like too far of a stretch.I think it's the same phenomenon as hero worship. Wanting something to represent an ideal. A pattern to follow, lacking depth. In this case a bunch of ideas suggesting mechanisms of transcendence, with sci-fi motifs sprinkled in. For example, 'a stargate in your brain'. What's that unique research called again? Synthesis?
David Wilcock promises we'll have superpowers come 2012...I suppose it's an easy sell if people really want it to be true.
RE: Pole Shift -> Hyper Evolution? - 3DMonkey - 06-10-2011
(06-10-2011, 12:09 AM)zenmaster Wrote: What's that unique research called again? Synthesis?
Aha. Some are so talented that they make it a work of art.
RE: Pole Shift -> Hyper Evolution? - Nyu - 06-10-2011
But they say the earth will be uninhabitable for some time after the transition, and while the earth is "in labor" now, I'm pretty sure they said that the transition would be complete by 2012. Which suggests to me we will be dead by then? I hope it just means that our consciousness will change but who is to know I guess.
Re David Wilcock, he is pretty cool but he says stuff that my understanding of things doesn't resonate with. he is just a man on a journey trying to find answers like the rest of us. He isn't all-knowing or anything. His material is helpful but its not gospel.
RE: Pole Shift -> Hyper Evolution? - Bring4th_Austin - 06-10-2011
(06-10-2011, 01:37 AM)Nyu Wrote: But they say the earth will be uninhabitable for some time after the transition, and while the earth is "in labor" now, I'm pretty sure they said that the transition would be complete by 2012. Which suggests to me we will be dead by then? I hope it just means that our consciousness will change but who is to know I guess.
This is all according to Ra and Q'uo, and I will be happy to supply the sources, just ask.
Earth will be uninhabitable for 3D beings, primarily because there will be no more 3D instreamings from the cosmos, and so the 3D sphere will not support consciousness. 1D, 2D, and 4D will all be supporting consciousness and life.
According to Q'uo, 4D is basically done being birthed. The 4D sphere of Earth is inhabitable. Soon, the 3D will vibrations cease to stream from the Cosmos to Earth, which would be the completion of the transition everyone talks about. Just because 3D vibrations won't be streaming from the Cosmos doesn't meant that they'll be gone completely, they'll still linger within our thoughts, our society, and our concepts. However, new 3D thought will not be possible, and since children being born now are 4D entities being born into 3D transitional bodies, thinking mostly 4D thoughts and taking advantage of 4D vibrations, it won't take long to manifest a completely 4D reality. But this is a transition, and it is a transition that we as humans have to make, it is not made for us. It is helped by 4D vibrations and the habitation of Earth by 4D entities in transitional bodies, but it is still up to us as humans to bring 4D into our reality.
As we change our thoughts, concepts, and societies, our bodies will also be evolving by an evolutionary birthing process. People with dual-bodies have been being born for at least a couple decades now, and all children born now have dual bodies. As generations progress, these dual bodies will support more and more 4D vibration, and by the time our reality is 4D, our bodies will be completely 4D, able to inhabit and appreciate the 4D sphere, and the 3D sphere will have melted into potentiation.
For any 3D being alive now, this is the last lifetime for them that Earth will be available for 3D work. After they die, they will either graduate to 4D or be ushered to their new homes. 4D STO entities will continue to incarnate into dual bodies until the 4D bodies and society are done evolving, and 4D STS entities will move on to a 4D STS planet that suits them.
In my opinion, this is the most literal interpretation of Ra's and Q'uo's descriptions of the harvest. As I said, if you would like to know where this specific information was interpreted from, just ask and I will be happy to share.
RE: Pole Shift -> Hyper Evolution? - Nyu - 06-10-2011
Thank you for that! I definitely see that children being born now are 4d souls, every child I hear about now under 2 is just incredible with their level of intelligence and understanding, and I don't know how others can't see it. I'm still a LITTLE confused but your explanation is not at fault, its my mind trying to grasp it. I'll keep what you have said in mind and go back and read the material again and see if I get it. I need to re-read it all anyway.
RE: Pole Shift -> Hyper Evolution? - Bring4th_Austin - 06-10-2011
(06-10-2011, 03:29 AM)Nyu Wrote: Thank you for that! I definitely see that children being born now are 4d souls, every child I hear about now under 2 is just incredible with their level of intelligence and understanding, and I don't know how others can't see it. I'm still a LITTLE confused but your explanation is not at fault, its my mind trying to grasp it. I'll keep what you have said in mind and go back and read the material again and see if I get it. I need to re-read it all anyway.
I'm happy to point you to any of the material which sourced the parts you may be confused with (I've got it all pretty well referenced), or answer any other questions you may have.
Good luck!
RE: Pole Shift -> Hyper Evolution? - 3DMonkey - 06-10-2011
eh, I see kids all the time. Little sts things they are. I love em to death.
RE: Pole Shift -> Hyper Evolution? - Raman - 06-10-2011
Pole shift was averted according to Ra. Indeed, a pole shift will mean no magnetosphere while shift is occurring therefore a solar activity will destroy life in the planet and produce great cataclysms.
RE: Pole Shift -> Hyper Evolution? - Bring4th_Austin - 06-10-2011
(06-10-2011, 01:06 PM)Raman Wrote: Pole shift was averted according to Ra. Indeed, a pole shift will mean no magnetosphere while shift is occurring therefore a solar activity will destroy life in the planet and produce great cataclysms.
I think you mean by Q'uo. Ra said that a pole shift was likely.
And while Q'uo ruled out a pole shift to express harvest, they have stated that the possibility still exists to express the transition from the time lateral.
Quote:2007_0211
It is automatic and what occurs is what you are seeing now where more and more entities have become aware that something is happening, that this planet is not functioning as it had been used to and that it is suffering from [humankind’s] uncaring ministry and stewardship of its resources.
Therefore, the energy for a pole shift or some other natural kind of disaster cannot be ruled out to express the roughness of the transition over to the main line from the parallel line.
RE: Pole Shift -> Hyper Evolution? - Raman - 06-10-2011
Quote:59.24 Questioner: When the planetary axis realigns, will it realign 20° east of north to conform to the green vibration?
Ra: I am Ra. We fear this shall be the last question as this entity rapidly increases its distortion towards what you call pain of the body complex.
There is every indication that this will occur. We cannot speak of certainties but are aware that the grosser or less dense materials will be pulled into conformation with the denser and lighter energies which give your Logos its proceedings through the realms of experience.
May we answer any brief queries at this time?
So it is likely only a 20 degree shift. Also, note ...but are aware that the grosser or less dense materials will be pulled into conformation with the denser and lighter energies ...
RE: Pole Shift -> Hyper Evolution? - Nyu - 06-10-2011
ok, do you guys think the occurrence of deja vu could have anything to do with the transition?? or do you know anything about it? ive just started noticing certain events around me sometimes repeat themselves, like i enter into some kind of time loop. it sounds weird, but im experiencing a lot of weird stuff lately. every friday night we have this kind of ritual where we make dinner then later go out onto my balcony to hang out and have a smoke before going inside to watch movies.. and about 4 times now the events of the car park that my balcony overlooks have repeated themselves like clockwork. theres always this guy who comes out to his car, does this ridiculous 3-point turn to reverse down the drive way, then a short time later the other guy with the car next to it comes out, does a similar thing but he is changing his car from one space to another, then later this other guy again will come out and just walk up to his car in another spot further up, then just walk back down and go back inside. seemingly normal things except that the sequence is exact, the timing is exact and its like 'woah this happened before' to the point where its predictable.
is this something to do with the shift? i havent noticed this anywhere else in my world yet except my driveway on a friday night but im going to start paying attention now. has anyone else noticed any weird deja vu?
RE: Pole Shift -> Hyper Evolution? - Bring4th_Austin - 06-12-2011
Nyu, that sounds trippy! I couldn't comment on whether it has something to do with the shift, but since you asked about deja vu I thought I'd share this Q'uo (actually Latwii) passage with you, maybe you will find some use in it.
Quote:Questioner: I have a quick one. What causes and
what are actually déjà vu experiences?
I am Latwii, and am aware of your question, my
sister. Each entity upon your planet, as we have said
many times, is a part of the fabric of the one creation
and the one Creator. And by their very nature,
therefore, have the ability to become aware of other
parts of the creation. Within your third-density
illusion, the forgetting is in sway and this unity with
the creation is, shall we say, a more foggy part of
your being. There are times, however, as the
rhythms of your being change frequency that you
may become aware of a possibility which does exist
for what you would describe as a future occurrence.
This is one of many possibilities.
Each entity does have such insights, shall we say,
whether they be the dreams during sleep, daydreams
during waking consciousness, or random thoughts
floating through the mind. Most do not occur for
they are possibilities which were not taken, roads
which were not traveled. There are, however, times
when the thought, the daydream, the dream during
sleep, does coincide with that road which was taken
in what is perceived to be the future. It is at such
times that the entity then becomes aware that the
previous conscious knowing has transpired. This you
have called the déjà vu experience.
RE: Pole Shift -> Hyper Evolution? - zenmaster - 06-12-2011
(06-10-2011, 02:20 AM)abridgetoofar Wrote: People with dual-bodies have been being born for at least a couple decades now, and all children born now have dual bodies.Dual bodies means previously harvested. Since harvest is not yet, that means all children are from other worlds. Since they are from other worlds, that means their worlds could not support positive 4D. That likely means their worlds were net-negative. So harvested positive in a society of mostly negative apparently. That would seem to be rare, but we have millions of these children being born.
RE: Pole Shift -> Hyper Evolution? - 3DMonkey - 06-12-2011
What happened to "harvest is now"?
And is it indicated that transitioning into a new density can ONLY happen at a harvest interval?
Maybe they are from net negative planets, but the are so many planets, what does it matter?
Hypothetically, I could die tomorrow, reincarnate in 1342, die again, move in time/space to October 2011, get harvested, reincarnate in 1999 into a dual activated body.
RE: Pole Shift -> Hyper Evolution? - zenmaster - 06-12-2011
(06-12-2011, 11:28 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: What happened to "harvest is now"?If I recall correctly, that was in reference to the question of life extension. That is, since 3rd density is going into potentiation, the life extension of that body would not make sense with regards to evolution. 'Harvest is now' means in the time frame of a life in which we could die at any time (regardless of longevity potential) due to whatever case, in any state of polarization. So the important work is the balancing work for harvest.
RE: Pole Shift -> Hyper Evolution? - Bring4th_Austin - 06-12-2011
(06-12-2011, 11:17 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(06-10-2011, 02:20 AM)abridgetoofar Wrote: People with dual-bodies have been being born for at least a couple decades now, and all children born now have dual bodies.Dual bodies means previously harvested. Since harvest is not yet, that means all children are from other worlds. Since they are from other worlds, that means their worlds could not support positive 4D. That likely means their worlds were net-negative. So harvested positive in a society of mostly negative apparently. That would seem to be rare, but we have millions of these children being born.
Q'uo stated recently that children being born now are 4D graduates of this planetary influence. I can dig up this reference if it means anything to you.
There's also a lot of wiggle room, in my opinion, for what this final harvest means. If a soul is dis-incarnate and ready for 4D incarnation on Earth, once freewill is no longer an issue and 4D vibrations are available, what's stopping them from incarnating into a dual body? Graduating at an earlier cycle meant they would have to be transported to a new planet, "harvestable" souls are already here. What does it mean to be harvested? Why couldn't they just incarnate to take advantage of the 4D vibrations?
RE: Pole Shift -> Hyper Evolution? - 3DMonkey - 06-12-2011
(it is a bit odd, now that I think about it, for Ra to suggest 'don't waste your time going for THAT catalyst')
Harvest at a time is kinda pointless in time/space if entities have access to all nexus points, no? We could all be dual activated, harvested already.
RE: Pole Shift -> Hyper Evolution? - zenmaster - 06-13-2011
(06-12-2011, 11:28 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: Maybe they are from net negative planets, but the are so many planets, what does it matter?Nothing matters. However, if you consider what conditions must have been like on those planets, compared to this one, it could be interesting. This planet is net positive, yet due to our ignorant biases, many feel it is net negative. Compare that to a planet that is actually net negative. That is, most of those graduating inhabitants must be 95% STS. That is an incredible accomplishment and one could imagine must have involved controlled warfare (didn't blow themselves up) and/or slavery. So an unharmonious 3D life to at least witness, yet managed to find their postive-polarization 'niche' in there somehow. That is the experience they are bringing. Even with the veil present, that developmental bias must be influencing behavior and guiding decisions for social engineering.
RE: Pole Shift -> Hyper Evolution? - Bring4th_Austin - 06-13-2011
I think Ra was basically saying "extending your 3D bodies lifespan at this point isn't necessary, because the time for 3D work on Earth is almost up."