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RE: Life, Drugs and self-destruction - lvxseeker - 02-03-2011
You could try a 10 day Vipassana meditation retreat. It will give you the opportunity and tools (for when you return to your everyday life) to observe the cravings for getting high without giving into them.
You can also look at what it is that you like about being high and try to access that state without taking the drug. You might need a therapist to help with that
RE: Life, Drugs and self-destruction - Sacred Fool - 02-04-2011
(02-01-2011, 03:29 PM)Holykaust Wrote: This is one of the biggest issues of my life, and I've never seen anybody from this crowd ever refer to it.
Well now, those days are over, I'd say.
RE: Life, Drugs and self-destruction - peelstreetguy - 02-09-2011
I like your post Blatzadict! I struggle with beer, pot and smokes. I probably thought I was "bad ass" in the light too! Looks like I still have something to prove now that I'm "here" and struggling with these addictions.
RE: Life, Drugs and self-destruction - Plenum - 02-08-2012
(02-01-2011, 03:29 PM)Holykaust Wrote: I CAN'T stop self-destructing, I'v been a drug addict for as long as I can remember, I've been addicted to marijuana, opiates/heroin, cocaine, crack cocaine, and I've experimented with every drug ever, even going as far as injecting drugs into my veins just to NOT feel any pain
this is just astonishing. My mind is in a spin right now.
RE: Life, Drugs and self-destruction - Ashim - 02-08-2012
(02-08-2012, 05:14 AM)plenum Wrote:(02-01-2011, 03:29 PM)Holykaust Wrote: I CAN'T stop self-destructing, I'v been a drug addict for as long as I can remember, I've been addicted to marijuana, opiates/heroin, cocaine, crack cocaine, and I've experimented with every drug ever, even going as far as injecting drugs into my veins just to NOT feel any pain
this is just astonishing. My mind is in a spin right now.
These things are just tools.
What do you do with tools?
What is intent?
RE: Life, Drugs and self-destruction - kycahi - 02-08-2012
We passed the anniversary of the original post. I hope Holyk is well.
RE: Life, Drugs and self-destruction - Plenum - 07-15-2012
(02-08-2012, 09:15 AM)kycahi Wrote: We passed the anniversary of the original post. I hope Holyk is well.
me too.
RE: Life, Drugs and self-destruction - rorystyris - 11-26-2012
Now a days lots of people are addicted to the some bad habits like smoking, drinking and drugs etc.. These habits causes some dangerous diseases like cancer, hypertension, sugar and blood pressure etc. So we need to avoid such kind of thinks for our good health.
RE: Life, Drugs and self-destruction - Karl - 11-26-2012
Maybe the drugs aren't the real issue. Maybe you're using the drugs to create an issue to distract you from your real problem.
And of course I could be completely wrong. I'm not you so this is only guess work.
I use alcohol extensively to avoid my issues, I know I do this but I continue to do it. I've hid from my problems so long I have next to no idea what they are. So my alcoholism is the symptom of a deeper problem, not the original problem itself. Hope this is of some use to you.
RE: Life, Drugs and self-destruction - Cyan - 11-26-2012
(02-04-2011, 12:01 PM)peregrine Wrote:(02-01-2011, 03:29 PM)Holykaust Wrote: This is one of the biggest issues of my life, and I've never seen anybody from this crowd ever refer to it.
Well now, those days are over, I'd say.
I've been high every single day that i've been on B4 except for short few day pauses when i was recuperating or had just ran out (none of which in the past 2 months or so) and i've also been here while on DMT/Mushrooms/LSD.
I've been high or wanting to get high or super irritated if not high for the past year and 4 months.
But i've been suicidally depressed and having random heart palpitations and panic attacks for 15 years before that due to a.... faulty viewpoint....
So, choosing randomly walking down the street and feeling like i have a heart attack
or
People saying i may smell bad and possibly be at times slightly incoherant (I have an IQ of 145-150 so i'm always in general incoherant by normal estimate, but when they notice i'm high they think its because i'm high that i'm incoherant.) No, i'm incoherant because i have to put about 5-15 layers worth of human conciousness effort not to instantly and irrevocably think all people i ran into are idiots of the highest magnitude for taking life in the slightest seriously. Which ofcourse impairs my ability to take life seriously.
Mostly that people around me are so stupendously stupid by comparison it is unbeliavable.
and i say this not to appear smug, because its a massive curse in reality.
But the difference between my sober for 3 months and focused on intelligence self that I am and have been for 25+ years
And
your normal self.
Is greater
Than your normal self
And Forrest Gump (quite a bit too).
More accurately
It is the difference on average, between the smartest primates with hand gestures and their average human handlers (smartest handlers being smarter than me, obviously).
Its not that human itneraction i feel is meaningles,s far from it, its just that when you mention something like.
"oh, i think the world has a problem with its electricity system"
I want to smash my head on the desk so hard that i literally have to imagine several astral selves holding me back because my "ego" would do it.
Because we have no problem. You, alone, any individual posting here, if you committed the resources and time as I or anyone of relative skill level would put out for a flowchart plan for you to follow, step by step, to solve the world electricity problem, you would not, as an individual undertake said path.
And I quarantee you that any seeker here will know what I'm referring to, as it is a neccesary part of the pre-ascension life, they cant follow your flowcharts.
Well, i cant categorically say CANT. But i have never in my life seen a member of a lower intelligence group willingly (besides myself as a example here, but thats for another time) submit to a member of a higher intelligence group as part time moment to moment member until resigned.
Usually lower groups isolate due to self pressure and fear and dont interact because they dont want to itneract and not because interaction is not available.
That is to say, for people like me, its not that I dont want to interact with people such as the people I meet on a daily basis. I simply cant. My defence for the moment is that I am still in school and i cant make money, any money, legally. And i wish to graduate because school is something you only get to go through once in your whole billion zillion gwadillion year experience... You know what i mean with the perspective and the longevity research and the time and the cryonics and so on.
But people who work, on a daily basis, at meanial jobs and put in 40 hours a day and then complain about it, i despise such people so fully that its un beliavable.
But i suppose, its accetable, some people simply wish to spread hate and vitrol around them by complaining and such is their role.
But when such complains turns to others I simply smile inside and die a little and let the conversation go its meaningless route.
"oh, we should really fix up the neighbourhood"
"oh yes we should"
"if only we didnt have jobs"
*sighs*
Such people fill me up with such a unholy rage that it makes me want to just sit here and cry.
Anyway. Its not that the world economy is or isnt something, that is an entirely irrelevant question. Its that the average intelligence of the men and women i interact with on this great experiment called earth. Have trouble finding food, shelter, clothes, warmth, water, bathing, waste removal and entertainement facilities to their liking after 20.000 years of evolution to such a degree that they might stop and take stock of their life and simply help others to such a realization of wow, what a wonderful colorful world we live in.
Dunno. Such people, just, i dont understand them you know.
We have all these problems, i mean. "we produce waste" WHAT? What the heck is "waste" are you referring to municipal garbage, that stuff thats per ton 70% safe to burn 25% metals and 5% only needing further attention. That stuff that is as pure for energy as crude oil is and as metal rich as the richest of the richest mines in the history of the earth. And we think its a PROBLEM? Jesus christ people, its a problem we have massive amounts of extra energy and metals floating around and no idea where to put them. What are you saying people?
Then these people that complain we dont have enough energy.
WHAT?
I mean DOUBLE TEEE ÄFF?
Give me one pacific ocean island and 100 millions and i'll produce more than 10 fukushimas worth of electricity with no radiation or help me God you may castrate me on the spot.
What is wrong with these people that think we have problems?
What the heck can we do to convince them that the sollutions are sooooo simple, but if some one person comes and does it, you'll end up worshipping him/her. I can only do so much before i end up being in violation and get kicked out of my own viewpoint
So, yeah.
I think I know what you mean.
My advice.
Dont sweat it.
Its all good.
RE: Life, Drugs and self-destruction - Plenum - 11-27-2012
thanks for the rant Cyan. I read every word of it, and understood most of it.
thanks for sharing your innermost thoughts.
I get ya brother
plenum
RE: Life, Drugs and self-destruction - Sagittarius - 11-27-2012
Funny this thread is bumped just before I have my lsd trip which has been a year in the making.
Oh and I agree with Cyan. Don't sweat it, in saying that weed and LSD is a bit different to Heroin/meth.
Bout to go pick up my bud and then the journey down the rabbit hole begins........wish me luck guys Kansas is going bye bye.
RE: Life, Drugs and self-destruction - Cyan - 11-27-2012
(11-27-2012, 05:29 AM)Sagittarius Wrote: Funny this thread is bumped just before I have my lsd trip which has been a year in the making.
Oh and I agree with Cyan. Don't sweat it, in saying that weed and LSD is a bit different to Heroin/meth.
LSD/Weed is what I prefer but my closest living friend is a 10+ year opioid abuser with daily to semi-daily experience for years. So cant really say I dont know the topic...
Have done both M and Synthethic opioids stronger than Heroin (insuffalation dont IV). Wouldnt recommend to anyone with more than 2 braincells. To me opioids feel like depression in a bottle. Then again I have "depersonalization" so its "symptoms" should be "helped" technically by opioids. When I'm on opioids i feel an eerie kind of abnormal calm inside a society thats clearly flying itself apart and should not be felt calm in.
Dunno. They all have their specific uses. Meth stops most acid hallucinations dead in their track in small doses for example.
Anyway, old topic and all that, but still. Fun saying "i hope someone was helped" when i know there is no possibility that someone will be helped by this, mostly, because there is no "someone" external to be helped by anything at all. The stuff we project.
*shakes head*
Cant wait to be reveiled again somewhere else.
Edit: It will be different than what you expect, because if it is all only what you expect, then there is no difference to this moment is there. Hope that conveys a little bit of the strangeness i've encountered in that realm.
RE: Life, Drugs and self-destruction - Sagittarius - 11-27-2012
(11-27-2012, 05:48 AM)Cyan Wrote:(11-27-2012, 05:29 AM)Sagittarius Wrote: Funny this thread is bumped just before I have my lsd trip which has been a year in the making.
Oh and I agree with Cyan. Don't sweat it, in saying that weed and LSD is a bit different to Heroin/meth.
LSD/Weed is what I prefer but my closest living friend is a 10+ year opioid abuser with daily to semi-daily experience for years. So cant really say I dont know the topic...
Have done both M and Synthethic opioids stronger than Heroin (insuffalation dont IV). Wouldnt recommend to anyone with more than 2 braincells. To me opioids feel like depression in a bottle. Then again I have "depersonalization" so its "symptoms" should be "helped" technically by opioids. When I'm on opioids i feel an eerie kind of abnormal calm inside a society thats clearly flying itself apart and should not be felt calm in.
Dunno. They all have their specific uses. Meth stops most acid hallucinations dead in their track in small doses for example.
Anyway, old topic and all that, but still. Fun saying "i hope someone was helped" when i know there is no possibility that someone will be helped by this, mostly, because there is no "someone" external to be helped by anything at all. The stuff we project.
*shakes head*
Cant wait to be reveiled again somewhere else.
Edit: It will be different than what you expect, because if it is all only what you expect, then there is no difference to this moment is there. Hope that conveys a little bit of the strangeness i've encountered in that realm.
Yeh I agree I find meth/opiates/alcohol useless in terms of learning more about self, it dulls the mind and senses rather then expand them.
I have found with acid it doesn't matter what I expect or hope for when I drop the acid it's always a new experience, silly to try and establish a baseline experience for a drug that expands you beyond the concept of a baseline.
I'am excited though because the last time I took acid I was a very different person and the thought of taking it now screams breakthrough experience. Part of the beauty of the drug is it's ability to produce exactly what is not expected, this being the only reason I feel a bit nervous before taking it.
RE: Life, Drugs and self-destruction - rorystyris - 11-28-2012
Using drugs are the dangerous and harmful habit for everyone, today lots of people are addicted to this type of drugs. Once if we addicted to this, then it's very difficulty to leave that habit, because of this there is a chance to getting the lung cancer.
RE: Life, Drugs and self-destruction - Cyan - 11-28-2012
(11-28-2012, 06:03 AM)rorystyris Wrote: Using drugs are the dangerous and harmful habit for everyone, today lots of people are addicted to this type of drugs. Once if we addicted to this, then it's very difficulty to leave that habit, because of this there is a chance to getting the lung cancer.
Not to get into it more deep due to the blatant bias in the forming of the statement (whats a drug, how do you define harmful, how can you speak for everyone and so on)
http://scienceblogs.com/scientificactivist/2009/04/02/thc-gives-cancer-cells-the-mun/
Quote:More relevantly, however, THC and other cannabinoids are actively being investigated for various useful clinical purposes, including the treatment of cancer through the inhibition of tumor growth.
Fear is more dangerous than THC.