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RE: The Money Trap - tadeus - 09-21-2021
(09-01-2021, 09:02 AM)jafar Wrote: The definite answer is none other than the person him/her own self.
Thus it's quite ridiculous to blame money/currency (any currency in any format or medium), banking system, government or any other party than the person who put him / herself into a trap of his / her own making.
jafar - you are already in the trap to think that you are a person.
RE: The Money Trap - jafar - 09-25-2021
Quote:jafar - you are already in the trap to think that you are a person.
jafar is an identity, an identity within bring4th universe, thus definitely he is a persona.
A persona among many in this bring4th universe.
The consciousness behind jafar can be said as being 'trapped' inside jafar (as an identity among many other identities).
Until it can gladfully let go of it's identification to jafar (detachment)
So who can free the consciousness from it's limited identity trap?
None other than the consciousness itself.
Is it then sensible to blame bring4th (or any other personas/parties) for 'entrapping' the consciousness into jafar?
Thus it's said, 'attachment' is the root cause of sufferings.
But in no way 'attachment' by itself is 'bad' and/or should be fought / avoided.
Use anything in it's proportion but don't get too attached to it.
And that includes money in any form of currencies.
And who can 'detached' itself from any form 'attachment'?
None other than the consciousness itself, nothing else can.
RE: The Money Trap - tadeus - 09-25-2021
(09-25-2021, 02:07 AM)jafar Wrote: jafar is an identity, an identity within bring4th universe, thus definitely he is a persona.
A persona among many in this bring4th universe.
A person in the definition of the government is founded with the birth certificate for the natural person, and with the registered address for the legal person.
So i agree to the identity - but not to the persona, because it is not official registered.
But this is of course only the legal view of it.
It is your free will to see yourself as whatever you want - specially in an spiritual way.
RE: The Money Trap - jafar - 09-25-2021
(09-25-2021, 05:23 AM)tadeus Wrote:(09-25-2021, 02:07 AM)jafar Wrote: jafar is an identity, an identity within bring4th universe, thus definitely he is a persona.
A persona among many in this bring4th universe.
A person in the definition of the government is founded with the birth certificate for the natural person, and with the registered address for the legal person.
So i agree to the identity - but not to the persona, because it is not official registered.
But this is of course only the legal view of it.
It is your free will to see yourself as whatever you want - specially in an spiritual way.
Then let's define some terminology, to avoid semantic confusion.
jafar is not a LEGAL PERSON as mandated by a government regulation.
And so does Ra, Quo for that matter..
They don't have birth certificate, address, passport or even mugshot.
jafar existence is only on this bring4th universe.
It has only username "jafar" and password, that's it.
When this bring4th universe ends so will jafar.
By the word "Persona" here it means it has certain Point Of View.
To have a point of view, birth certificate, address is not required.
A unit of consciousness can have multiple persona(s), each capturing it's own point of view.
And jafar is a persona, among many personas of that unit of consciousness.
Thus that unit of consciousness can capture many / multiple point of views.
The persona named jafar can even have debate with other personas of that unit of consciousness.
Each persona stating it's own specific point of view and 'defending' it's point of view.
A monolog one will say, but to those who are not aware, it will bring forth an illusion of dialog and debate.
The illusion of 'many' ness.
RE: The Money Trap - tadeus - 09-26-2021
(09-25-2021, 05:54 AM)jafar Wrote: Then let's define some terminology, to avoid semantic confusion.
That's really fantastic in the sense of this thread.
It should only be pointed out that the word person has a really strength meaning in this world.
But it seems you want to use the word persona in the old roman sense as mask / avatar ?
In our world now the word person make a clear difference between a being of life and a juridical entity.
For instance only a legal person can have an bank account.
It is not intended that natural persons can be involved in any business activity.
Any law is made for persons, because no one has the right to decide over a(nother) being of life.
This is the way to respect the cosmic law that the free will of a being has to be respected.
Seeing the self as a person is to subordinate the being of life as juridical entity.
There are still really many beings out there, not knowing the difference ...