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RE: Are wanderers automatically empaths? - Ymarsakar - 04-01-2021
"i have friends who are clearly very empathetic. the thing that i've run into, is that often times the sensitivity is so much that that the "empath" sets up their defenses and doesn't let anything in. they can't relate to others, or to themselves. though the potential for further developing that gift is there"
Untrained empaths have to dial their abilities down via suppression, sorta like the psi blockers in B5.
As they don't know how the energies of obsidian/tourmaline works, nor do they have a martial arts root/ground technique, that becomes the mind's only option of defense.
In terms of empathetic shielding, it becomes a permeable force field, using obsidian/tourmaline to learn how to utilize those grounding/absorption energies. This turns the high frequency "hits" on the heart chakra to lower energies that can be sent to the ground via the root chakra. It makes more sense for those that are on the Hanged Man path, the seeker of esoteric martial arts. This decreases the disruption to one's own heart chakra and makes it easier to differentiate between one's own emotions and another person's emotions/pain. This is a substantial upgrade in an empath's quality of life. It is like wearing sunglasses for albinos and others with eyes sensitive to light. Blocking the ability entirely and shutting down, is a sub optimal solution.
After awhile, the black crystals are no longer necessary for shielding, and one can project the psionic force fields of a partially activated mer ka bah on one's own consciousness level, without external aid. This can be keyed to "voice commands" or mental images or mental commands.
A fully activated mer ka bah is not supposed to be used, as it tends to "draw attention" on the astral, without the proper cloaking methods of the violet flame.
RE: Are wanderers automatically empaths? - LeafieGreens - 04-01-2021
Quote:What does this mean?
(When people ask me questions, the real answer appears)
I learned this in a most intense way.
Ymarsakar’s wisdom is real.
RE: Are wanderers automatically empaths? - sillypumpkins - 04-01-2021
what is real leafie
RE: Are wanderers automatically empaths? - Ymarsakar - 04-01-2021
A green leaf is real. A red leaf needs more chakra roots.
RE: Are wanderers automatically empaths? - Ray711 - 04-02-2021
On the subject of wanderers being inherently compassionate or not, I think it's important to look at the info provided by Ra on the two Venusian wanderers. These two entities killed and started a war in the name of their values, and had an aversion towards what they perceived to be an overabundance of compassion on the part of the Venusian society. So, this goes to show that wanderers are just as capable as anybody else of committing all kinds of atrocities. Right here on Earth, it seems to me that a fairly common occurrence would be for a wanderer to feel such a dissonance between the love it subconsciously remembers from the higher densities and what is found here once incarnated, that the heart is shut off, and the entity beings to act as if devoid of compassion.
RE: Are wanderers automatically empaths? - Sacred Fool - 04-02-2021
(04-02-2021, 07:08 AM)Ray711 Wrote: On the subject of wanderers being inherently compassionate or not, I think it's important to look at the info provided by Ra on the two Venusian wanderers.
Good point. I would add to this that Q'uo now and then speaks about 6D wanderers coming here to balance love, wisdom & power. This can involve wanderers being obsessed with power and/or wisdom, and thus having not much interest in love at this particular point in their developement. Naturally, individuals develope along idiosyncratic pathways.
RE: Are wanderers automatically empaths? - zedro - 04-02-2021
(04-02-2021, 07:08 AM)Ray711 Wrote: On the subject of wanderers being inherently compassionate or not....
(Edit: my apologies if I missed a split in the conversation between empathy and compassion, I initially assumed these terms were being erroneously intermixed)
Being empathic and being compassionate are 2 different things. Empathy is just sensing another's emotional state, it does not signify ones owns feelings/opinions towards the others emotional state. An empath could be sadistic and enjoy the negative emotional states of others like fear, or be neutral and just passively sense/experience.
In the typical layman's sense (non energy specific) it just means you understand. In the energetic sense it is sensing, but not necessarily understanding (because it can be hard to differentiate from ones own emotional state if the ability is new or unrefined).
RE: Are wanderers automatically empaths? - AnthroHeart - 04-02-2021
(04-02-2021, 12:01 PM)Sacred Fool Wrote:(04-02-2021, 07:08 AM)Ray711 Wrote: On the subject of wanderers being inherently compassionate or not, I think it's important to look at the info provided by Ra on the two Venusian wanderers.
Good point. I would add to this that Q'uo now and then speaks about 6D wanderers coming here to balance love, wisdom & power. This can involve wanderers being obsessed with power and/or wisdom, and thus having not much interest in love at this particular point in their developement. Naturally, individuals develope along idiosyncratic pathways.
Fascinating. I thought they only came to help with harvest.
Sounds amazing.
RE: Are wanderers automatically empaths? - sillypumpkins - 04-02-2021
(04-02-2021, 12:39 PM)zedro Wrote:(04-02-2021, 07:08 AM)Ray711 Wrote: On the subject of wanderers being inherently compassionate or not....An empath could be sadistic and enjoy the negative emotional states of others like fear, or be neutral and just passively sense/experience.
this is sort of what I was getting at with my post on the last page. it seems we are talking about empaths but we don't seem to all agree what an "empath" is...... your point about compassion/empathy is important too. just because someone is empathetic, it doesn't mean they're compassionate.
RE: Are wanderers automatically empaths? - Ymarsakar - 04-02-2021
That gets into a touchy subject. 2nd density life forms can feel energy but not higher chakras. So humand in the 3rd density can understand romantic love but not christ love so easily. Animals can understand emotions but not the more complicated or higher emotions. In order to graduate from 2nd density, iamraw mentioned that pets could be on the fast track due to closer ezperience with humans.
So for a psionic human, they would need to tap into a wide range of energy auras, including ets.
There are other ways to get an idea of this. Animals have tones and body language. Humans use this as well. Empathy would be the 4th density skill. Using the heart chakra to connect to everything at once.
So while serial killers and psychos can get a good read of things, this is closer to a 2nd density predator s perceptiom and not 4th or even 3rd density