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RE: Intellect - Ming the Merciful - 03-18-2021
(03-18-2021, 01:31 PM)Patrick Wrote: The simplest and yet most powerful revelation. We are ONE.
Help, I am losing stars? Have I become unworthy being here? Was not my presence not noticed by the "Powers that Be". It is an abomination before the God(s). Has not Ming the Merciful not behaved in class. Have I spoken out when I shouldn't? What damnation is this? I have been cursed because of my wanderings into other places. It is a tragedy. Do you see what a predicament I am in? If I lose any more stars, I could be banished for life. The agony.
RE: Intellect - Diana - 03-18-2021
(03-18-2021, 05:18 PM)Ming the Merciful Wrote:(03-18-2021, 01:31 PM)Patrick Wrote: The simplest and yet most powerful revelation. We are ONE.
Help, I am losing stars? Have I become unworthy being here? Was not my presence not noticed by the "Powers that Be". It is an abomination before the God(s). Has not Ming the Merciful not behaved in class. Have I spoken out when I shouldn't? What damnation is this? I have been cursed because of my wanderings into other places. It is a tragedy. Do you see what a predicament I am in? If I lose any more stars, I could be banished for life. The agony.
Hey Ming. You've lost me here. Not sure what you mean.
RE: Intellect - Ming the Merciful - 03-18-2021
(03-18-2021, 01:31 PM)Patrick Wrote: The simplest and yet most powerful revelation. We are ONE.
I keep losing myself? I type an answer and post it, and then it disappears into the VOID, Enough, (already). Never to be seen again. What type of Platform is this?
RE: Intellect - Diana - 03-18-2021
(03-18-2021, 05:32 PM)Ming the Merciful Wrote: I keep losing myself? I type an answer and post it, and then it disappears into the VOID, Enough, (already). Never to be seen again. What type of Platform is this?
Do you mean that you have lost what you typed (as opposed to people not understanding what you post)? If so, that used to happen to me frequently until a local, independent Internet Provider got reliable service to my house. Before that—yikes. It was awful here (I live rurally, out of the city).
For me, the issue was on my end. I used to copy my posts into a Word doc when I thought of it before I hit "preview" or "post." So happy I don't have to that anymore.
RE: Intellect - Patrick - 03-18-2021
I still copy my post before posting. Well the long ones at least.
RE: Intellect - Sacred Fool - 03-19-2021
Hatonn, 15 Jan 1974
Quote:My friends, truth is very, very simple. The Creator’s plan is very, very simple. It is not necessary that we weave a complex web of circumstance to lead you to the Creator. He is within you, and you are Him. It is only necessary that you realize this in its fullest sense for you to be aware of all the Creator’s wisdom. The people of this planet have blocked their minds from this knowledge. We are attempting to teach the people of this planet how to remove this blockage.
It is a very simple process. Unfortunately, the people of this planet are more accustomed to complexity, and would therefore desire intellectual juggling of various propositions and theories. This, my friends, is not necessary. To get from where you are to where you should be requires an understanding that has nothing to do with the intellect. It requires, simply, a knowing of truth.
This truth is extremely simple. What I am trying to say is that when you become totally aware of this simple truth, then you will not use intellectual processes to understand anything that you wish to know. This knowledge will be yours, for all knowledge is linked in the Creator’s universe. There is no separation. This separation occurs only when man desires it, through use of the freedom of choice that has been given him by his Creator. Return, therefore, to the Creator. Return to the knowledge and the wisdom and the power that is yours. Do this by giving forth only His light and His love. This is what was intended. Acting otherwise, and knowing otherwise, results only in the isolation and blockage that I referred to.
Consider very carefully these simple teachings that I offer to you, for these simple teachings are all that is required. There is nothing of a complex nature that is needed.
Inhabiting that truth is not a function of intellect, but when one moves forward into the illusion with that light and love, knowing how to employ some intelligence can be useful, it seems to moi. But all of this returns again to that central point--that central truth--eventually, perhaps at the end of each day? Perhaps for a given individual, more often, or less?
RE: Intellect - Ohr Ein Sof - 03-19-2021
I am inclined to think there are many forms of intelligence.
Creative intelligence; to be able to create, it's ability to create according to it's own design; Organic intelligence, but most of all, the intelligence that is instreaming through the crown chakra from the Cosmos or The Creator. Everything has a blueprint and within that blueprint is an operating Intelligence. This is a loaded question without writing a long dissertation. Perhaps someone can add on and make better to what I have started here.
RE: Intellect - flofrog - 03-19-2021
Ohr, I don’t think I can add something because, it seems to me this crown chakra intelligence is the central energy on which we all perform.
In general intelligence was seen as an intellectual process. Creative intelligence is what exists in each entity but is often limited by conditions of living, intellect, as thinking ‘artists, inventors have it but I don’t ‘ ?
The french writer, Saint-Exupery, pilot during WWII, author of the Little Prince, once wrote in Wind, Sand and Stars,
“ What torments me is not the humps, nor the hollows, nor the ugliness. It is the sight, a little bit in all these men, of Mozart murdered.” The creativity in each one not given free flow, being limited. Very typical of the love St Ex had for humanity.
RE: Intellect - Sacred Fool - 03-19-2021
In the context of (a) self-aware, self-directed intelligence and (b) conscious spiritual developement, the process of becoming more and more as the Creatrix involves an intelligence which is not much associated with intellect, as compared with, for example, compiling a list of brands of intelligence. Whichever appeals to you most, go for it, by all means. I'm just trying to clarify this line of discussion...as scant as it may be.
RE: Intellect - Diana - 03-19-2021
(03-19-2021, 11:45 AM)flofrog Wrote: The french writer, Saint-Exupery, pilot during WWII, author of the Little Prince, once wrote in Wind, Sand and Stars,
“ What torments me is not the humps, nor the hollows, nor the ugliness. It is the sight, a little bit in all these men, of Mozart murdered.” The creativity in each one not given free flow, being limited. Very typical of the love St Ex had for humanity.
That reminds me of John Bradshaw's quote, "Not knowing who you are is the greatest tragedy of all." Though he was coming from the point of view of inner child work. It's so true that people in general, from whatever angle, are inhibited to express themselves authentically in a creative sense. Although, as much as I dislike the sea of mediocrity and other undesirable elements that abound on the Internet, I absolutely recognize that this sea is exactly the opening up of creative expression for the average person.
RE: Intellect - unity100 - 03-19-2021
Intellect, in a lower level, mental capacity, mind or the cognitive understanding, are things related to understanding the relationships in between things.
This requires understanding that different things exist first. Including self. Which is a necessity for graduating into 3rd density, as you will remember.
Then the entity starts understanding the existence, that relationships exist in between different things, and chooses a preference for itself, in its dealings towards the other entities. That's polarity choice.
Intellect, then, basically is the manifestation of the one fundamental part of existence, mental complex. Of course, that is too simplistic, since all parts of smb complex interact with each other, but its roughly the idea.
RE: Intellect - meadow-foreigner - 03-19-2021
(03-15-2021, 12:01 PM)sillypumpkins Wrote: This word has been floating through my mind for a little while now. I don't really know exactly what it means. The definition on webster feels like an utter dud to me:
intellect: /ˈin(t)lˌekt/ (noun):
the faculty of reasoning and understanding objectively, especially with regard to abstract or academic matters.
or the wiki definition: In the study of the human mind, intellect refers to and identifies the ability of the mind to reach correct conclusions about what is true and what is false, and about how to solve problems
these definitions don't resonate with me at all....... what does it mean to "understand" something objectively? what are "correct conclusions about what is true and false?"
anyways, sometimes when I'm contemplating these things, I like to look up the etymology of the word, so I did that for this one:
Intellect: "the sum of the cognitive facilities (except sense or sense and imagination), the capacity for reasoning truth," late 14c. (but little used before 16c.), from Old French intellect "intellectual capacity" (13c.), and directly from Latin intellectus "discernment, a perception, understanding," noun use of past participle of intelligere "to understand, discern"
so according to the etymology of this word...... intellect is related to both understanding AND discernment? woo, that's got me stumped! i just don't see where intellect fits into that equation..... what the hell is it??
I would love to hear y'alls thoughts on the matter........ thanks
A Mind that knows what and how to create (theory), and applies it (practice): that may be considered Intellect.
RE: Intellect - sillypumpkins - 03-19-2021
meadow... that resonates deeply, thank you
RE: Intellect - Ming the Merciful - 03-19-2021
(03-18-2021, 05:24 PM)Diana Wrote:(03-18-2021, 05:18 PM)Ming the Merciful Wrote:(03-18-2021, 01:31 PM)Patrick Wrote: The simplest and yet most powerful revelation. We are ONE.
Help, I am losing stars? Have I become unworthy being here? Was not my presence not noticed by the "Powers that Be". It is an abomination before the God(s). Has not Ming the Merciful not behaved in class. Have I spoken out when I shouldn't? What damnation is this? I have been cursed because of my wanderings into other places. It is a tragedy. Do you see what a predicament I am in? If I lose any more stars, I could be banished for life. The agony.
Hey Ming. You've lost me here. Not sure what you mean.
The stars by your name. I was just being a comic. There are those that say, I have a wicked sense of humour and it baffles people. It was a curse given to me by the God(s). It is a burden I must carry....
RE: Intellect - Ohr Ein Sof - 03-20-2021
https://theosophy.wiki/en/Universal_Mind
RE: Intellect - Ohr Ein Sof - 03-20-2021
This is what I was trying poorly to explain. This may also lead to some good book reading or PDF downloads, Idk.
RE: Intellect - sillypumpkins - 03-20-2021
awesome, thanks ohr
funnily enough i bought the first two volumes (not sure how many there are) of the secret doctrine but have been reluctant to dive in....
RE: Intellect - Ming the Merciful - 03-22-2021
(03-20-2021, 08:36 PM)sillypumpkins Wrote: awesome, thanks ohr
funnily enough i bought the first two volumes (not sure how many there are) of the secret doctrine but have been reluctant to dive in....
Dive in. If you are seeking Self-Realization, that is a a very good treatise. Not for the faint hearted. It is DEEP and highly METAPHYSICAL. The first time I read the works of Madam Blavatsky I was overwhelmed by what she found. Also, when she travelled East, the West was in the "Victorian" culture, and very strict Victorian values, (which were meaningless). Go forth, and enter the "Realms of Knowledge".
RE: Intellect - Ohr Ein Sof - 03-22-2021
(03-20-2021, 08:36 PM)sillypumpkins Wrote: awesome, thanks ohr
funnily enough i bought the first two volumes (not sure how many there are) of the secret doctrine but have been reluctant to dive in....
Maybe a confirmation for you to do as Ming says, DIVE on IN!
RE: Intellect - Ohr Ein Sof - 04-07-2021
There is Creative intelligence that is from the Creator and is in every organic and non-organic thing within Creation. Then there is man's intellect which is limited because it is connected to the 5 senses and understanding the life that one perceives.
Until Man becomes an open channel for The One, he is bound to his 5 senses and only trying to intellectually understand the life around him.