(03-18-2015, 02:44 PM)Minyatur Wrote: To me aren't you the one not seeing universal love?

In this situation I am the Creator seeing the Creator condemning the Creator about doing something to the Creator, all of this being One Intelligent Infinity exploring this given situation.

In the end we can say all that we want but we are every single entity creating this mess as well as every single entity suffering from it. Our given current finite selves talking about it are not the cause nor the solution to it.

Ra often also says that there is no right or wrong and no mistakes, that all is One.

(03-18-2015, 02:45 PM)Adonai One Wrote: As intuitive experiences, nope: Just enter a blackhole and see what happens.

(03-18-2015, 03:04 PM)AngelofDeath Wrote: I would perhaps note for myself that I don't really have any actual 'beliefs'. All of this is, from my perspective, an on-going exercise in the balancing of polarized opposites in the mind. When there is something before me, I shape to it as its opposite. Then, being its opposite, I invert and become that thing which is then balanced with its opposite in my awareness and I realize both as possibilities of thought and experience. They then 'go quiet'.

(03-18-2015, 03:04 PM)AngelofDeath Wrote: I would perhaps note for myself that I don't really have any actual 'beliefs'. All of this is, from my perspective, an on-going exercise in the balancing of polarized opposites in the mind. When there is something before me, I shape to it as its opposite. Then, being its opposite, I invert and become that thing which is then balanced with its opposite in my awareness and I realize both as possibilities of thought and experience. They then 'go quiet'.

(03-18-2015, 03:16 PM)Minyatur Wrote: There is nothing that is not Love and Light.

(03-18-2015, 03:06 PM)Minyatur Wrote: Who said I care not about my impacts? I am talking about judging the impact of others as they are all playing their role.

I do eat meat but I do not perceive it to bring any difference on such a huge market. Wether something is thrown or bought by someone else would not affect the number of animal deaths.

From my perspective too many think they are an answer to this world and that their sole purpose is to polarize it when in fact this world is much more of an answer to us. We come here with the intent to change things but in the end we will leave being the ones who were changed much more. This world is not wrong, most wanderers are here because they understood it not and are going through the process of understanding it. Understanding this aspect of the One Intelligent Infinity and understanding why they are as other-selves even creating it.

(03-18-2015, 03:08 PM)Adonai One Wrote:

(03-18-2015, 03:04 PM)AngelofDeath Wrote: I would perhaps note for myself that I don't really have any actual 'beliefs'. All of this is, from my perspective, an on-going exercise in the balancing of polarized opposites in the mind. When there is something before me, I shape to it as its opposite. Then, being its opposite, I invert and become that thing which is then balanced with its opposite in my awareness and I realize both as possibilities of thought and experience. They then 'go quiet'.

This is my process as well.

May I append that a blackhole is not just a concept; you're against Science here.

(03-18-2015, 03:55 PM)AngelofDeath Wrote: Ah, but in order to care about your impact, you must have some relative value system in your mind which determines the importance of this or that thing. I apologize if I came across as judging, rather what I am trying to point at is the importance of discernment, because it is through discernment that we focus our consciousness in to this or that field of work in the world.

I love this planet, its people of all types. They are my children in a way, and I am also their child in that I would not be here without them. However, one cannot make a choice truly if one is only aware of a limited perspective of any particular choice. So that is why you will often see me "opposing" views. I simply wish to share awareness. It certainly need not be accepted.

I will say that in the perspective of my "real self", I agree with you. I do not see anything in existence as 'unnatural'. I sought to understand how love is supposed to affect the way I interact with the world and myself. I realized that love(Logos), being infinite, can also be finite, and that is the rare beauty of our world and experience here. Infinite love is, well infinite, but finite love can be anything. I know that sounds redundant, but it's more of a whole to parts sort of relationship. Thus, I realized that even though all is infinite, unconditional love there is an infinity a finite love that is also occurring simultaneously.

I believe my human experience here is one finite love in the infinite love of All. It's not that I don't see the infinite love, it's that I strove to understand what love IS. It seems to me that most people take it as "allowance" or "acceptance", in other words "forgiving". People talk about compassion, about passion, about caring, about seeking, about energy, about this and that and all sorts of things that love is supposed to be. I realized you can't pin it down because it is the dynamism of the universe's relationship with itself. There's nothing that's not it. So, now what?

I didn't know what to do with it, this infinite love that just washed over everything, it was as though the whole of the creation suddenly beat as one heart. Then, nothing happened. It just did that, just beat and beat and beat, infinitely. It powered everything, but I realized that in order for its potentials to fully manifest it had to do so through finite forms. In the Ra Material they say that Intelligent Infinity discerned (pretty sure that's the exact word they used) a concept, which was finity. Thus to know itself, it engaged in an exploration of finity, which is of course an infinite process, which is kind of redundant but you know, whatever.

However, this raised the question in my mind, how could something which was infinite not already be fully aware of all of itself, including its finity? This, I believe, is a result of translation from the simultaneous perspective of Ra to the linear perspective of the human mind in imagining the causative relationships that underlie any particular aspect of experience. From that I thought that finity perhaps is 'always' beginning in an infinite moment, for the first distortion, which is the discernment of finity. However, that means it is also always ending. I realized that all that exists is a single moment of discernment and release, for lack of a better word. The infinity in which the knowing of the Creator by the Creator is, has and will happen. It already has happened, in one sense, while it is happening right now in another, and still it is yet to happen in another.

The question then is, what is 'knowing'? Of what use is this to something which, again, is completely infinite in all ways. Why doesn't Intelligent Infinity already know everything about itself? This is simple - infinity is never-ending. This is what the Creator knows of itself. Knowing it is never-ending, it is always growing in its knowledge of itself for its knowledge of itself includes that it is infinite. Knowing that it is infinite, it also can easily be aware that it is finite.

However, now comes the weird part. We, and all of the things experiencing as the One, are the awareness of the Intelligent Infinity focused (Logos) upon a finite experience. That in itself is a pretty phenomenal thought. However, more interestingly, it gets weirder when you realize that in order for Intelligent Infinity to experience a finite state it must forget it is infinite. It must create mechanisms in order to "look" at itself through finite experiences. Thus, I believe the first distortion and all distortions after are these mechanisms.

So, distortions, distortions, distortions, endless space/time and time/space and suddenly bam, here I am.

What am I doing here in all of this? There is an infinite universe all around me. I realize that I am that infinite universe and yet I am also a finite experience. My body here represents my current finite experience. What do I do with this? Well, I have some 'supplies', which are my bodies, my skills, and my memories. Wisdom which I have accumulated through other experiences on my journey back to being infinite. I have particular interests, passions and philosophical leanings which even though I can see much beyond them, still hold my heart and mind at attention for some mysterious reason I can only assume relates back to the fine dynamism and mechanisms of the infinite love.

I am but a finite love here in the infinite universe, but then the plot thickened. There were, are, and will always be other finite loves. They comes in all forms, all types and of all varieties. Some of them I know, I have met many of them personally, I have been the finite Creator meeting the finite Creator through many, many lives. Some of them I am very close with and in many of these cases I can feel the Creator sing as it becomes aware of itself, infinity in the finite forms of the world. These relationships of love come in an infinite variety of forms.

However, as you, a finite awareness tap in to the infinite awareness within you, you begin to see a wider picture. A bigger circle that is spinning throughout the cosmos. It's not just you and those around you, it's an enourmous play, a drama going on which includes every entity and character of existence, no matter how far removed or separated they may attempt to make themselves. I realized then, that I am a character within this drama and that the more I build upon 'one' character, the more the finite self I am comes closer to the infinite self I am for thus we are harmonious in our unity. Henceforth I have endeavoured to 'know' my character. I realized that I am actually at a chapter that is well along in the 'book' or 'journey back to the One' and I already have built many character traits in to myself.

I realized that is why I encountered the philosophy of the Law of One and acceptance. I realized I had to accept the choices I had already made, take responsibility for them, and turn my focus towards my focuses of the future for it is every choice which guides my journey back 'home'. I am interwoven with this planet, I am of the Elder Race, I will not move on until we all, the entire planet, move on. I have chosen this responsibility and I will see it through if it takes billions upon billions of years or if it happens next year. Therefore, I care deeply about the welfare of this entire planet, but in order for me to 'help', I have to work from my finite perspective and not my infinite perspective.

My infinite perspective is my foundation, it is the mysterious well from which I draw my power, my inspiration, my self-hood and my ultimate identity. It is infinite love, all-accepting, all-loving. However, I would be lying if I said that my finite perspective is matched to my infinite perspective. In fact, it can't be, at least not yet, because there are still many deep, intense distortions I am working through and that is what my experience here on this forum often takes me through - embracing the self that I am.

Thus, all of my posts, all of my thoughts lean towards one fundamental question I ask of myself and to all others: Who are you?

(03-18-2015, 03:55 PM)AngelofDeath Wrote: Ah, but in order to care about your impact, you must have some relative value system in your mind which determines the importance of this or that thing. I apologize if I came across as judging, rather what I am trying to point at is the importance of discernment, because it is through discernment that we focus our consciousness in to this or that field of work in the world.
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My infinite perspective is my foundation, it is the mysterious well from which I draw my power, my inspiration, my self-hood and my ultimate identity. It is infinite love, all-accepting, all-loving. However, I would be lying if I said that my finite perspective is matched to my infinite perspective. In fact, it can't be, at least not yet, because there are still many deep, intense distortions I am working through and that is what my experience here on this forum often takes me through - embracing the self that I am. 

Thus, all of my posts, all of my thoughts lean towards one fundamental question I ask of myself and to all others: Who are you?

Quote:The consciousness below thee is ever-expanding 
in different ways from those known to thee. 
Aye, it, though in space-time below thee, 
is ever growing in ways that are different from 
those that were part of the ways of thine own. 
For know that it grows as a result of thy growth 
but not in the same way that thou didst grow. 
The growth that thou had and have in the present 
have brought into being a cause and effect. 
No consciousness follows the path of those before it, 
else all would be repetition and vain. 
Each consciousness in the cycle it exists in 
follows its own path to the ultimate goal. 
Each plays its part in the Plan of the Cosmos. 
Each plays its part in the ultimate end. 
The farther the cycle, the greater its 
knowledge and ability to blend the Law of the whole.

(03-18-2015, 05:17 PM)AngelofDeath Wrote: That is fine, I agree with that although it's still besides my point, which is that we should be more concerned with our own choices than the choices of others, but since others are involved in our choices we need to discern how our choices will impact those around us and beyond as well as how the choices of others impact ourselves and others around us.

In the end all, be all, yes, all is well. Right now, all is well. Yet, there are still all sorts of things happening in the world, the world has not stopped because you or anyone else has found inner peace or has justified the experiences others are having. People still suffer. There are still opportunities to help. There are also opportunities to exploit, or to ignore. There are opportunities of all kinds.

Ultimately, it is your (general 'you') choice, but don't think that others aren't making their choices without you. It's easy to say that all is well when you live comfortable, in relative safety, but it's a whole other thing when violence and confrontation is at your doorstep. Of course, some have little or no care or value for their own lives here, so there would be little resistance in that case I'm sure, but most would go in to fight or flight.

Yes, in the eyes of the Creator, all is equal and perfection. That is the Great Perfection. Yet, that means that it is not wrong to oppose others either, even if just for the sake of opposition. It also means that there is no crime, no morals, no consideration, no caring necessary in any ordeal. It means war and peace become equal, each being fully present in eachother. An utter cacophony of blissful chaos. Death is life and life is death. Eating one another to gain in power, and being eaten to feed power.

Will you eat or be eaten?

(03-18-2015, 05:24 PM)Minyatur Wrote:

(03-18-2015, 05:17 PM)AngelofDeath Wrote: That is fine, I agree with that although it's still besides my point, which is that we should be more concerned with our own choices than the choices of others, but since others are involved in our choices we need to discern how our choices will impact those around us and beyond as well as how the choices of others impact ourselves and others around us.

In the end all, be all, yes, all is well. Right now, all is well. Yet, there are still all sorts of things happening in the world, the world has not stopped because you or anyone else has found inner peace or has justified the experiences others are having. People still suffer. There are still opportunities to help. There are also opportunities to exploit, or to ignore. There are opportunities of all kinds.

Ultimately, it is your (general 'you') choice, but don't think that others aren't making their choices without you. It's easy to say that all is well when you live comfortable, in relative safety, but it's a whole other thing when violence and confrontation is at your doorstep. Of course, some have little or no care or value for their own lives here, so there would be little resistance in that case I'm sure, but most would go in to fight or flight.

Yes, in the eyes of the Creator, all is equal and perfection. That is the Great Perfection. Yet, that means that it is not wrong to oppose others either, even if just for the sake of opposition. It also means that there is no crime, no morals, no consideration, no caring necessary in any ordeal. It means war and peace become equal, each being fully present in eachother. An utter cacophony of blissful chaos. Death is life and life is death. Eating one another to gain in power, and being eaten to feed power.

Will you eat or be eaten?

I don't disagree with any of this. Just stating from the perspective given by the tablet, any negativity that is avoided here will happen elsewhere.

(03-18-2015, 05:27 PM)AngelofDeath Wrote:

(03-18-2015, 05:24 PM)Minyatur Wrote:

(03-18-2015, 05:17 PM)AngelofDeath Wrote: That is fine, I agree with that although it's still besides my point, which is that we should be more concerned with our own choices than the choices of others, but since others are involved in our choices we need to discern how our choices will impact those around us and beyond as well as how the choices of others impact ourselves and others around us.

In the end all, be all, yes, all is well. Right now, all is well. Yet, there are still all sorts of things happening in the world, the world has not stopped because you or anyone else has found inner peace or has justified the experiences others are having. People still suffer. There are still opportunities to help. There are also opportunities to exploit, or to ignore. There are opportunities of all kinds.

Ultimately, it is your (general 'you') choice, but don't think that others aren't making their choices without you. It's easy to say that all is well when you live comfortable, in relative safety, but it's a whole other thing when violence and confrontation is at your doorstep. Of course, some have little or no care or value for their own lives here, so there would be little resistance in that case I'm sure, but most would go in to fight or flight.

Yes, in the eyes of the Creator, all is equal and perfection. That is the Great Perfection. Yet, that means that it is not wrong to oppose others either, even if just for the sake of opposition. It also means that there is no crime, no morals, no consideration, no caring necessary in any ordeal. It means war and peace become equal, each being fully present in eachother. An utter cacophony of blissful chaos. Death is life and life is death. Eating one another to gain in power, and being eaten to feed power.

Will you eat or be eaten?

I don't disagree with any of this. Just stating from the perspective given by the tablet, any negativity that is avoided here will happen elsewhere.

How do you figure? In your own words, I am curious.

(03-18-2015, 05:57 PM)AngelofDeath Wrote: What makes you think this planet isn't a planet that has received extra or excessive negativity already and maybe its reduction will actually help balance things out?

(03-18-2015, 06:33 PM)AngelofDeath Wrote: Okay sure, but if you encounter a situation where someone is suffering at the hands of another, do you do nothing?

(03-18-2015, 06:41 PM)AngelofDeath Wrote: In other words, "I do what I want."