(04-08-2015, 12:02 AM)Minyatur Wrote: [...]

(03-31-2015, 09:45 PM)Confused Wrote:

(03-31-2015, 06:45 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Confused, do you think that Black Holes really are gateways to the next Octave of dimensions?

Hello, GW.

I personally do not know anything on this that I can affirm with certainty. We can only turn to the material that has inspired in us such a train of thought or alerted us to its potential possibility. 

Quote:40.1 Questioner: I thought that I would make a statement and let you correct it. I’m trying to make a simple model of the portion of the universe that we find ourselves in. Starting with the Logos, or sub-Logos, our sun, we have white light emanating from this. This is made up of frequencies ranging from the red to the violet. I am assuming that this white light then contains the experiences through all of the densities and as we go into the eighth density we go into a black hole which emerges on the other side as another Logos or sun and starts another octave of experience. Can you comment on this part of my statement?

Ra: I am Ra. We can comment upon this statement to an extent. The concept of the white light of the sub-Logos being prismatically separated and later, at the final chapter, being absorbed again is basically correct. However, there are subtleties involved which are more than semantic.

The white light which emanates and forms the articulated sub-Logos has its beginning in what may be metaphysically seen as darkness. The light comes into that darkness and transfigures it, causing the chaos to organize and become reflective or radiant. Thus the dimensions come into being.

Conversely, the blackness of the black hole, metaphysically speaking, is a concentration of white light being systematically absorbed once again into the One Creator. Finally, this absorption into the One Creator continues until all the infinity of creations have attained sufficient spiritual mass in order that all form once again the great central sun, if you would so imagine it, of the intelligent infinity awaiting potentiation by free will. Thus the transition of the octave is a process which may be seen to enter into timelessness of unimaginable nature. To attempt to measure it by your time measures would be useless.

Therefore, the concept of moving through the black hole of the ultimate spiritual gravity well and coming immediately into the next octave misses the subconcept or corollary of the portion of this process which is timeless.

So, in essence, and from what we can perceive through the byzantine maze of language, which can sometimes hide more than reveal, it appears that there is credence to the possibility that you have raised. 

(04-12-2015, 10:16 PM)seek Wrote: I am not sure about octaves but I have always interpreted that which Confused has posted of Ra's message to mean that black holes were the way back to merging into source. If suns/stars are 7th density entities then it makes sense that black holes are the "vacuum" that suck up those entities bringing them home once ready.

Quote:29.18 Questioner: I sometimes have difficulty in getting, you might say, a foothold into what I am looking for in trying to seek out the metaphysical principles, you might say, behind our physical illusion.

Could you give me an example of the amount of gravity in the third density conditions at the surface of the planet Venus? Would it be greater or less than Earth?
Ra: I am Ra. The gravity, shall we say, the attractive force which we also describe as the pressing outward force towards the Creator is greater spiritually upon the entity you call Venus due to the greater degree of success, shall we say, at seeking the Creator.

This point only becomes important when you consider that when all of creation in its infinity has reached a spiritual gravitational mass of sufficient nature, the entire creation infinitely coalesces; the light seeking and finding its source and thusly ending the creation and beginning a new creation much as you consider the black hole, as you call it, with its conditions of infinitely great mass at the zero point from which no light may be seen as it has been absorbed.

(04-13-2015, 09:08 PM)Confused Wrote: Asking the Universe?

(04-14-2015, 09:30 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote:

(04-13-2015, 09:08 PM)Confused Wrote: Asking the Universe?

I love these posts with a little bit of mysticism in there.

(04-15-2015, 10:18 AM)Confused Wrote: The tortured heart of a twisted galaxy

(04-16-2015, 02:59 AM)Confused Wrote: William Blake

Quote:Blake loved this image, the frontispiece to Europe a Prophecy, and made several copies. The old man is Urizen, in Blake’s mythology the embodiment of reason and law and a repressive, satanic force trying to bring uniformity to mankind. (In America a Prophecy, Urizen is the evil god who rules during the Enlightenment.) Here he is seen kneeling in a flaming discus surrounded by dark cloud, hand held over a compass, apparently measuring the black void. A copy was commissioned from Blake during the final days of his life. He worked on it, tinting the colours, as he was propped up on his sickbed.

Quote:Obsessed with the supernatural, Blake claimed to have seen visions daily since his boyhood. He and his astrologer friend John Varley used to try to summon spirits. This monstrous creature appeared to Blake in a seance, stating that all fleas were inhabited by the souls of men who were “by nature bloodthirsty to excess”. The scaly, vampire-man creature is salivating over a cup for blood-drinking. The curtains between which he stands add drama. Painted in Blake’s own special tempera method mixed with gold leaf on wood, it measures only 214 x 162mm. The art world of Blake’s day assumed he was mad.

(04-16-2015, 10:54 AM)Bring4th_GLB Wrote:

(04-15-2015, 10:18 AM)Confused Wrote: The tortured heart of a twisted galaxy

Something about a galaxy in disarray is saddening. I wonder if after some time has elapsed, like hundreds of millions of years, it will regain its swirling composure.

(04-16-2015, 12:19 PM)isis Wrote:

(04-16-2015, 02:59 AM)Confused Wrote: William Blake

Gotta love William Blake!


The Ancient of Days, 1794

Quote:Blake loved this image, the frontispiece to Europe a Prophecy, and made several copies. The old man is Urizen, in Blake’s mythology the embodiment of reason and law and a repressive, satanic force trying to bring uniformity to mankind. (In America a Prophecy, Urizen is the evil god who rules during the Enlightenment.) Here he is seen kneeling in a flaming discus surrounded by dark cloud, hand held over a compass, apparently measuring the black void. A copy was commissioned from Blake during the final days of his life. He worked on it, tinting the colours, as he was propped up on his sickbed.

(04-16-2015, 12:33 PM)Confused Wrote:

(04-16-2015, 10:54 AM)Bring4th_GLB Wrote:

(04-15-2015, 10:18 AM)Confused Wrote: The tortured heart of a twisted galaxy

Something about a galaxy in disarray is saddening. I wonder if after some time has elapsed, like hundreds of millions of years, it will regain its swirling composure.

I think, GLB, that question begets another question. Just as our local Sun is part of the larger galactic logos, is the galactic logos, in turn, part of a larger other-self logos or entity?