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Wanderers and homosexuality/bisexuality - Adonai One - 04-05-2014
I have wanted to reveal this for some time: Almost all wanderers are so balanced in their spiritual mass they can inherently have an attraction to either sex.
Homosexuality/bisexuality only occurs in beings in mid-development due to their must needs of having an exchange between opposite gender polarities being infringed upon; Constant contact between the same gender polarity causes a confusion in the spiritual mass that enables homosexuality/bisexuality. This is very rare but is very prevalent in urban areas and in places where there are very congested schools and workplaces.
This is my belief/understanding. Please use your discernment. I only say this to enable people to be more open about their sexuality.
RE: Wanderers and homosexuality/bisexuality - Fang - 04-05-2014
Most bi-sexuals I know are hipster feminist girls who don't want to conform to the "gender binary" enforced so callously on them by their patriarchal oppressors.
For your point though, there's not really much I can say as I have no way to confirm or deny your conclusions or even find a frame of reference for how you came to that conclusion.
RE: Wanderers and homosexuality/bisexuality - reeay - 04-05-2014
Sexuality is not clear cut into a category like hetro, bisexual, and homosexual but on a continuum spectrum - there's a lot of gray area for all people, regardless of whether you're wanderer or native or whatnot. What you say doesn't make sense.
RE: Wanderers and homosexuality/bisexuality - Fang - 04-05-2014
Quote:Sexuality is not clear cut into a category like hetro, bisexual, and homosexual but on a continuum spectrum - there's a lot of gray area for all people, regardless of whether you're wanderer or native or whatnot. What you say doesn't make sense.This is true and I understand this. As I've recently come to the conclusion that others may not understand the position from where I make my remarks, which is completely understandable (and I shouldn't devise an obscure humor and expect others to understand that's where I'm coming from) I should point out that my first point is sarcastic and should not be taken seriously, I've just seen some interesting stuff on the internet recently which made me shake my head.
RE: Wanderers and homosexuality/bisexuality - Adonai One - 04-05-2014
I don't recognize a biological distinction as I believe/understand it is a matter of spiritual entrophy and mass not genetics nor psychology. This is my belief/understanding. Please use your discernment.
RE: Wanderers and homosexuality/bisexuality - michael430 - 04-05-2014
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RE: Wanderers and homosexuality/bisexuality - Melissa - 04-05-2014
RE: Wanderers and homosexuality/bisexuality - zenmaster - 04-05-2014
By "aura infringement", Ra is referring to restricted opportunity for catalyst. The "as if" treatment of things, including ourselves, draws from an understanding which was influentially developed. We take cues, we are prompted, full opportunity for complete expression and actualization of our being exists only in potential. In any learning environment, there will be a bias offered. And given the limited options offered by society, the soul will tend to gravitate toward that which promises to offer the best lessons possible.
RE: Wanderers and homosexuality/bisexuality - Fang - 04-05-2014
Quote:I don't recognize a biological distinction as I believe/understand it is a matter of spiritual entrophy and mass not genetics nor psychology.Anything "spiritual" is given access by mind (psyche) which is given access by body (biological).
RE: Wanderers and homosexuality/bisexuality - michael430 - 04-05-2014
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RE: Wanderers and homosexuality/bisexuality - reeay - 04-05-2014
Sexuality can be a fluid, dynamic shifting along the spectrum of sexuality thru-out lifespan. You can even become a male -to-female transsexual, then be attracted to women, and be considered a lesbian. Whatever one experiences at the diff points in that spectrum offers something to learn about self. You speak of categories and distinctive domains Adonai (like hetro/homo/bi or body/mind/spirit) but really, is it that simple?
RE: Wanderers and homosexuality/bisexuality - Fang - 04-05-2014
If people actually knew their bibles they would know what has become "abomination" in English Leviticus was originally "that which is not consistent with ritual" in Hebrew and that in the context of Leviticus you've got a set of laws for an infantile nation, it makes sense to tell men not to "waste the seed" in practices "not consistent with ritual" (homosexuality) because you are trying to build a nation. It didn't mean that gays were devil spawn.
I feel you Michael man, it must be hard growing up in a society that is mistrustful of your integral attributes.
RE: Wanderers and homosexuality/bisexuality - zenmaster - 04-05-2014
(04-05-2014, 11:18 AM)michael430 Wrote:Lessons aren't inherently packaged in isolation like that, but rather unfold due to how circumstances are addressed. Acceptance is more like a field of consciousness which calls upon many, many aspects of self including those aspects which may be appreciated by the contrast provided by various ideas of identity conformance. It's really only in retrospect that we consider a cause-effect experience to be a particular lesson. To learn consciously, all preferences (including sexual) must be better known and when we are not congruent with an idea of self (or other self) that is golden catalyst.(04-05-2014, 11:01 AM)zenmaster Wrote: By "aura infringement", Ra is referring to restricted opportunity for catalyst. The "as if" treatment of things, including ourselves, draws from an understanding which was influentially developed. We take cues, we are prompted, full opportunity for complete expression and actualization of our being exists only in potential. In any learning environment, there will be a bias offered. And given the limited options offered by society, the soul will tend to gravitate toward that which promises to offer the best lessons possible.
I suppose living in a society full of people who consider your sexuality "sinful," against nature, and the cause of a deadly plague is a huge lesson. But what's to learn from that? That people hide their fear and prejudice under the guise of "God" ? Ok I learned that. What's the next lesson? To accept that that's just how people are? Just like those people are supposed to learn that being gay is just how I am? Seems like a paradox :-(
RE: Wanderers and homosexuality/bisexuality - Matt1 - 04-05-2014
Am i the only one thinking this isn't a deal big or deep metaphysical debate ? Just follow your heart.
RE: Wanderers and homosexuality/bisexuality - Fang - 04-05-2014
Quote:Am i the only one thinking this isn't a deal big or deep metaphysical debate ?yes
RE: Wanderers and homosexuality/bisexuality - xise - 04-05-2014
My 2 cents: Generalizations from the early 1980s have limited applicability today, whether or not they come from an extra-dimensional being. I think the situation when Ra communicated in the early 1980s is different than today. It seems reasonable that the alleged aura infringement only started happening in recent times of the twentieth century with the development of larger cities and the openness and acceptance of being gay.
If that is the case, the emergence of this phenomenon would have been hard for a soul to gauge. After its emergence, it seems that like any phenomenon, a high seniority soul may use this phenomenon explicitly by choice for non-male/female energy balancing reasons to learn other lessons about life (a great many orange and yellow ray lessons outside of male/female balancing can be learned if one selects to a gay incarnation in a place of known aura infringement).
I don't believe the universe or souls are as static as implied by assuming the truth of Ra's generlization about society in the early 1980s to apply to society 30 years later. Conditions are constantly changing. Taking Ra's generalizations about the 1980s as true today I think underestimates the adaptivity of incarnating consciousness. I'm sure male/female infringe of gay people probably still happens today, but I'd be shocked if Ra didn't comment that more and more it is a bias recently selected on purpose for a specific learning purpose. It sure seems like it would be catalytic. I'm not gay, but I have had gay acquaintances and social friends. Maybe more gay people can add their thoughts here?
RE: Wanderers and homosexuality/bisexuality - Sagittarius - 04-05-2014
Haha I had sexual experiences with 2 men both found through Craigslist. Not particularly enjoyable in the common sense of the word but it was vital catalyst for me. Going against life long bias was extremely informative.
RE: Wanderers and homosexuality/bisexuality - Fang - 04-05-2014
Craigslist man? Seriously? lol
Quote:Not particularly enjoyable in the common sense of the wordyou don't say
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RE: Wanderers and homosexuality/bisexuality - zenmaster - 04-05-2014
(04-05-2014, 12:11 PM)xise Wrote: I'm sure male/female infringe of gay people probably still happens today, but I'd be shocked if Ra didn't comment that more and more it is a bias recently selected on purpose for a specific learning purpose. It sure seems like it would be catalytic.Can't select a bias without a bias being offered. What's more primary, the conditions which grant progress or someone's balancing needs?
RE: Wanderers and homosexuality/bisexuality - michael430 - 04-05-2014
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RE: Wanderers and homosexuality/bisexuality - Sagittarius - 04-05-2014
(04-05-2014, 12:23 PM)Fang Wrote: Craigslist man? Seriously? lol
Quote:Not particularly enjoyable in the common sense of the wordyou don't say
Interesting and incredibly freeing period of my life. It was a major threshold for me and basically turned me into the dauntless mother f***** I'am right now.
I'am looking forward to the day someone close to me requests teaching in that nature. Kinda like lightning and I do forever crave shocking people to death
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RE: Wanderers and homosexuality/bisexuality - AnthroHeart - 04-05-2014
I'm gay too. And I've had a couple of craigslist experiences. They were ok. The best and most meaningful experiences were with other furries. A lot of furries are gay.
RE: Wanderers and homosexuality/bisexuality - Ankh - 04-05-2014
(04-05-2014, 10:09 AM)michael430 Wrote: Then again, "aura infringement" doesn't really make any sense to me either.
This is what I believe Ra meant by aura infringement:
Quote:Ra: I am Ra. The bisexual reproductive urge has as its goal, not only the simple reproductive function, but more especially the desire to serve others being awakened by this activity.
In an over-crowded situation where each mind/body/spirit complex is under a constant bombardment from other-selves it is understandable that those who are especially sensitive would not feel the desire to be of service to other-selves. This also would increase the probability of a lack of desire or a blockage of the red-ray reproductive energy.
In an uncrowded atmosphere this same entity would, through the stimulus of feeling the solitude about it, then have much more desire to seek out someone to whom it may be of service thus regularizing the sexual reproductive function.
If I understand Ra correctly, they meant that homosexual people are sensitive. In overcrowded areas there a constant bombardment from others. This makes some sensitive people to lose their desire to serve, which manifests sometimes as red-ray blockage. Those who are prone to this are also people who had many incarnations, and 65% of them was of one gender.
RE: Wanderers and homosexuality/bisexuality - michael430 - 04-05-2014
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RE: Wanderers and homosexuality/bisexuality - Ankh - 04-05-2014
(04-05-2014, 06:14 PM)michael430 Wrote: What do you think Ra meant by overly-"sensitive" ?
I think that Ra might have meant that these people are sensitive in regards to feeling energies. There are also other things of course, which one can pick up from any of the senses, so maybe by "overly-sensitive" Ra meant what they said about Carla once: "This is a sensitive instrument, by which we mean the distortions which enter her mind/body/spirit complex come from any of her senses."
michael430 Wrote:And by "bombardment" ?
That there are people everywhere, and those who are sensitive maybe need retreats of some sort, or as Ra said, solitude about them.
michael430 Wrote:When did this bombardment occur? Prior to my incarnation? My earliest memory of being gay came at 3 or 4 years old.
As soon as you entered into this incarnation, I believe.
(Can kids at age 3 or 4 have/feel sexual desire? O_o)
michael430 Wrote:I have a conscious desire to serve everyone.....Ever since 2012 I've dedicated my existence to serving the Creator by loving everyone equally and unconditionally. My sexual "impairment" (what do you think Ra means by that word?) is still here.
Yes, and as Ra said: "It is to be noted at this juncture that although it is much more difficult, it is possible in this type of association for an entity to be of *great service to another in fidelity and sincere green-ray love of a nonsexual nature* thus adjusting or lessening the distortions of its sexual impairment."
And by impairment, I believe that Ra might have meant that heterosexuality is perhaps the ultimate way of seeking the One, but I don't know. I also thought about if both individuals are homosexual, can they then have any energy exchange? Cause energy exchange is based upon male/female polarity, right? So, if there can't be any energy exchange, cause both are of the same biological polarity, then one can not reach the One by sexual activity, right? It's just my thoughts though.
RE: Wanderers and homosexuality/bisexuality - michael430 - 04-05-2014
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RE: Wanderers and homosexuality/bisexuality - Phoenix - 04-05-2014
(04-05-2014, 06:14 PM)michael430 Wrote: What do you think Ra meant by overly-"sensitive" ? And by "bombardment" ? When did this bombardment occur? Prior to my incarnation? My earliest memory of being gay came at 3 or 4 years old. I have a conscious desire to serve everyone.....Ever since 2012 I've dedicated my existence to serving the Creator by loving everyone equally and unconditionally. My sexual "impairment" (what do you think Ra means by that word?) is still here.
edit: Tons of quotes always seem sarcastic, but I assure you I'm just trying to understand Ra's words here....Thanks for joining the discussion Ankh!
PS I gotta say the first time I read the Material the quote about sensitivity and bombardment and aura-infringement resonated so highly I cried. But "I" still don't understand it.
I read something that I think might help you. In 'Destiny of Souls', Michael Newton, which is the second of two great books. It was only one very brief case study but one of his clients chose a gay lifetime in order to karmically repair some things. There were three options. the negative that was repeating his behaviours he didn't like, the unpolarised, which was a kind of housewife, and someone who was gay and suffered for it, which was the service to others polarity. There was no possibility of 'choice' offered in this scenario, he couldn't choose not to be gay.
His book doesn't go into the 'naturalness' or otherwise of such things.
The Law of One materials wouldn't want you to feel misery because of their presence, they hold the Law of Free Will above all things.
RE: Wanderers and homosexuality/bisexuality - Ankh - 04-05-2014
(04-05-2014, 06:45 PM)michael430 Wrote: I never thought of it in that way. If anything, I've always thought MORE "energy" was produced or exchanged during gay sex.
Well, there is probably a very high release of physical energy, right? But there is no mental/emotional energy release there, which is what guys, according to Ra need, so therefore... no energy exchange...? But this is just my thoughts, sweety. Ra never mentioned anything about that, so I don't know.
michael430 Wrote:I have found someone with whom to serve in a nonsexual way with green-ray love....my partner. So...what do you think? Am I not serving him with sincere green-ray love? For if I were, according to Ra, my impairment would be gone, and then I wouldn't have my lover. Paradox again :-(
Yes, and Ra said that too, that one can be of *great* service to another in sincere green-ray. I don't think that Ra meant here that if you serve another self in sincere green-ray, you will cease to be gay. That's not what I think Ra meant by "lessening impairment".
RE: Wanderers and homosexuality/bisexuality - AnthroHeart - 04-05-2014
I've stopped having sexual relations with people. They just aren't that fulfilling. I focus more on pictures of male anthros, which turn me on much more. They are essentially cartoon characters, so fantasy. I also believe I have a mate in my social memory complex that I can sometimes tune into, and I feel it slightly in my 2nd chakra, with indigo and heart chakras going strongly. The mate is of no particular gender. I feel they are genderless.
Ra said that sexual energy exchange only happens in 4-6 density if I am correct, so I am not sure if it's possible for energy exchange while in 3D.
RE: Wanderers and homosexuality/bisexuality - michael430 - 04-05-2014
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