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[split] Shifting roles of souls - Bluebell - 07-28-2015
(07-26-2015, 03:32 AM)tamaryn Wrote: Wow I am so glad I stumbled upon that reading of GW's
If i recall correctly Jesus incarnated with his mate as his mother as well, maybe this is a common phenomena. I think it may also be true with me.
Anyway welcome Aion. I'll have to support your services and request a reading as well
i'm sorry, what's there to be excited about having ur mother as ur mate? it's incestuous and disturbing.
and Jesus' mate, as everyone knows, is not his mother Mary, but Mary Magdalene!
and it's offensive to suggest it's common!
RE: Aeviternal Services [Currently Fundraising] - AnthroHeart - 07-28-2015
(07-28-2015, 12:36 PM)Bluebell Wrote:(07-26-2015, 03:32 AM)tamaryn Wrote: Wow I am so glad I stumbled upon that reading of GW's
If i recall correctly Jesus incarnated with his mate as his mother as well, maybe this is a common phenomena. I think it may also be true with me.
Anyway welcome Aion. I'll have to support your services and request a reading as well
i'm sorry, what's there to be excited about having ur mother as ur mate? it's incestuous and disturbing.
and Jesus' mate, as everyone knows, is not his mother Mary, but Mary Magdalene!
and it's offensive to suggest it's common!
He's talking about a past life where we were mates. Having her as a mother now is certainly challenging.
She tells me that in the next life I'm going to be her slave.
RE: Aeviternal Services [Currently Fundraising] - Minyatur - 07-28-2015
(07-28-2015, 12:36 PM)Bluebell Wrote:(07-26-2015, 03:32 AM)tamaryn Wrote: Wow I am so glad I stumbled upon that reading of GW's
If i recall correctly Jesus incarnated with his mate as his mother as well, maybe this is a common phenomena. I think it may also be true with me.
Anyway welcome Aion. I'll have to support your services and request a reading as well
i'm sorry, what's there to be excited about having ur mother as ur mate? it's incestuous and disturbing.
and Jesus' mate, as everyone knows, is not his mother Mary, but Mary Magdalene!
and it's offensive to suggest it's common!
I don't think you understand what a soul mate is. A soul mate is a soul friend with whom you have shared stories. My sister and most of my friends are soul mates of mine and it has nothing to do with sex... They're just souls that I am close to in time/space which is manifested in this space/time.
RE: Aeviternal Services [Currently Fundraising] - Aion - 07-28-2015
(07-28-2015, 12:36 PM)Bluebell Wrote:(07-26-2015, 03:32 AM)tamaryn Wrote: Wow I am so glad I stumbled upon that reading of GW's
If i recall correctly Jesus incarnated with his mate as his mother as well, maybe this is a common phenomena. I think it may also be true with me.
Anyway welcome Aion. I'll have to support your services and request a reading as well
i'm sorry, what's there to be excited about having ur mother as ur mate? it's incestuous and disturbing.
and Jesus' mate, as everyone knows, is not his mother Mary, but Mary Magdalene!
and it's offensive to suggest it's common!
I think you misunderstood. It's not that his mother is his mate now, it's that his mate outside of incarnation chose to incarnate with him as his mother so they could accomplish work in consciousnesses. In incarnation they don't recognize themselves as mates, that would be bizarre to them too. You can see it as taking on roles in a play. They chose roles which accentuated what experience they wanted to develop. There were things put in place to make sure there would be no awkward attractions.
For example in one of my own past lives I was the father of my girlfriend who was my daughter in that life. Sure, weird to think about, but it doesn't mean I think of her as my daughter in this life. When dealing with things outside of incarnation it can get weird because anybody can incarnate in any role. So what may seem 'normal' under the veil may not be so normally.
That being said it is actually somewhat common for soul-mates to incarnate in relevant roles in each others lives and not necessarily as positive romance. Sometimes the most challenging people in our lives could be someone who is really close to us outside of incarnation but who has taken on that role as antagonist.
Be careful not to mesh things together too much. Sometimes there are fine complexities that can be confusing which can cause people to get defensive over strange ideas. I don't apologize for presenting strange ideas but I do my best to clear up confusion.
RE: Aeviternal Services [Currently Fundraising] - Bluebell - 07-28-2015
he's saying she's ur soulmate, y aren't u upset?
RE: Aeviternal Services [Currently Fundraising] - Minyatur - 07-28-2015
(07-28-2015, 01:02 PM)Bluebell Wrote: he's saying she's ur soulmate, y aren't u upset?
It simply means a soul that his soul cares about, what's wrong with that?
RE: Aeviternal Services [Currently Fundraising] - AnthroHeart - 07-28-2015
(07-28-2015, 01:02 PM)Bluebell Wrote: he's saying she's ur soulmate, y aren't u upset?
I don't think she's my soulmate. In the reading it just said a mate from another life.
Like a partner, not necessarily a soulmate.
But could be. I don't know.
RE: Aeviternal Services [Currently Fundraising] - Bluebell - 07-28-2015
(07-28-2015, 12:56 PM)Aion Wrote:(07-28-2015, 12:36 PM)Bluebell Wrote:(07-26-2015, 03:32 AM)tamaryn Wrote: Wow I am so glad I stumbled upon that reading of GW's
If i recall correctly Jesus incarnated with his mate as his mother as well, maybe this is a common phenomena. I think it may also be true with me.
Anyway welcome Aion. I'll have to support your services and request a reading as well
i'm sorry, what's there to be excited about having ur mother as ur mate? it's incestuous and disturbing.
and Jesus' mate, as everyone knows, is not his mother Mary, but Mary Magdalene!
and it's offensive to suggest it's common!
I think you misunderstood. It's not that his mother is his mate now, it's that his mate outside of incarnation chose to incarnate with him as his mother so they could accomplish work in consciousnesses. In incarnation they don't recognize themselves as mates, that would be bizarre to them too. You can see it as taking on roles in a play. They chose roles which accentuated what experience they wanted to develop. There were things put in place to make sure there would be no awkward attractions.
For example in one of my own past lives I was the father of my girlfriend who was my daughter in that life. Sure, weird to think about, but it doesn't mean I think of her as my daughter in this life. When dealing with things outside of incarnation it can get weird because anybody can incarnate in any role. So what may seem 'normal' under the veil may not be so normally.
That being said it is actually somewhat common for soul-mates to incarnate in relevant roles in each others lives and not necessarily as positive romance. Sometimes the most challenging people in our lives could be someone who is really close to us outside of incarnation but who has taken on that role as antagonist.
Be careful not to mesh things together too much. Sometimes there are fine complexities that can be confusing which can cause people to get defensive over strange ideas. I don't apologize for presenting strange ideas but I do my best to clear up confusion.
i didn't misunderstand. and it's not my fault it's disturbing. i think souls should have roles they stick to, and it's not cool to say such disturbing things.
RE: Aeviternal Services [Currently Fundraising] - Aion - 07-28-2015
(07-28-2015, 01:07 PM)Bluebell Wrote:(07-28-2015, 12:56 PM)Aion Wrote:(07-28-2015, 12:36 PM)Bluebell Wrote:(07-26-2015, 03:32 AM)tamaryn Wrote: Wow I am so glad I stumbled upon that reading of GW's
If i recall correctly Jesus incarnated with his mate as his mother as well, maybe this is a common phenomena. I think it may also be true with me.
Anyway welcome Aion. I'll have to support your services and request a reading as well
i'm sorry, what's there to be excited about having ur mother as ur mate? it's incestuous and disturbing.
and Jesus' mate, as everyone knows, is not his mother Mary, but Mary Magdalene!
and it's offensive to suggest it's common!
I think you misunderstood. It's not that his mother is his mate now, it's that his mate outside of incarnation chose to incarnate with him as his mother so they could accomplish work in consciousnesses. In incarnation they don't recognize themselves as mates, that would be bizarre to them too. You can see it as taking on roles in a play. They chose roles which accentuated what experience they wanted to develop. There were things put in place to make sure there would be no awkward attractions.
For example in one of my own past lives I was the father of my girlfriend who was my daughter in that life. Sure, weird to think about, but it doesn't mean I think of her as my daughter in this life. When dealing with things outside of incarnation it can get weird because anybody can incarnate in any role. So what may seem 'normal' under the veil may not be so normally.
That being said it is actually somewhat common for soul-mates to incarnate in relevant roles in each others lives and not necessarily as positive romance. Sometimes the most challenging people in our lives could be someone who is really close to us outside of incarnation but who has taken on that role as antagonist.
Be careful not to mesh things together too much. Sometimes there are fine complexities that can be confusing which can cause people to get defensive over strange ideas. I don't apologize for presenting strange ideas but I do my best to clear up confusion.
i didn't misunderstand. and it's not my fault it's disturbing. i think souls should have roles they stick to, and it's not cool to say such disturbing things.
Well, I'm sorry for your disturbance, but that is your discomfort to come to terms with. I admit these kinds of things aren't that strange to me anymore so I am not very phased by it. The Universe is a weird, bizarre and strange place in my eyes.
I will be sure to be conscientious of ideas I share with you as it is not my intention to disturb you (but neither will I be dishonest in my service and avoid information that is disturbing).
RE: [split] Shifting roles of souls - Minyatur - 07-28-2015
It's not really disturbing, we have many (if not near-infinite) soul mates.
RE: [split] Shifting roles of souls - AnthroHeart - 07-28-2015
My mom has said we act like a married couple, (obviously without sex or touching). I look older than I am so it surprises people that I am her son. I do love her for being my mom. Even if she is hard to get along with at times.
RE: [split] Shifting roles of souls - Aion - 07-28-2015
I actually understand quite well the discomfort with weird past lives as my girlfriend and I had to come to terms with it when we realized I was her father in a previous life. However, that was only one life whereas in others we were lovers so I don't think that one life has coloured our relationship too much.
RE: [split] Shifting roles of souls - AnthroHeart - 07-28-2015
I think this life teaches me about separation, since me an my mom can be distant.
What better way to than to have someone close to you who is difficult.
RE: [split] Shifting roles of souls - Bring4th_Austin - 07-28-2015
The idea that entities within a soul group shift roles and connect in different capacities within incarnation is very common among the most popular past-life reading research. Carla talks in Book V about the possibility that she was Jim's son in a previous life-time. I don't find it very disturbing, as these social roles are temporary and illusory. We put them on and let them play out in order to help us navigate distortions within incarnation, but they are easily removed upon the distillation of the lessons learned within incarnation.
I agree it can be disturbing to think about parental figures in terms of having a more intimate and romantic relationship with them, but the roles and personalities that cause these thoughts to be uncomfortable are rather temporary according to many past-life researchers.
Carla in Book 5:
Quote: An interesting bit of possible past history was expressed years ago to Jim in a psychic reading: it was suggested that in the American great plains frontier of the nineteenth century, Don and Jim were brothers living together as farmers. I was Jim’s child, Don’s nephew, and I lived only to the age of five, being sickly from birth. This was suggested as being preparation for their taking care of me in this life, as I dealt with disability, limitation and especially psychic greeting during the time of the Ra contact. It rings true at some level with me. However, I also feel that we do not need to know anything of our past associations in order to learn and serve together at this present moment. We have all we need to meet the present moment. The rest is just details.
RE: [split] Shifting roles of souls - Aion - 07-28-2015
As a reader one of my challenges as I developed my ability was being able to open up to weird or controversial information. At first it's easy to only want to give attractive or appealing information but eventually I started getting blocks because I'd reject material that wasn't 'comfortable'. Now I've learned to just let things be what they are and I'm not having as many issues with blockages.
RE: [split] Shifting roles of souls - Spaced - 07-28-2015
It's even weirder when you realize that in a past life you murdered someone who you love and care about in this life (and vice versa)
RE: [split] Shifting roles of souls - Matt1 - 07-28-2015
In Michael Newtons Journey of Souls, he said that people often share different family rolls over incarnations. Such as the father being the mother, the brother becoming the sister, the sister becoming the mother and so on, if i recall. As a means to balance out.
RE: [split] Shifting roles of souls - Aion - 07-28-2015
My Mom got a past life reading before that said she had sacrificed me in five different Mayan lives and I sacrificed her twice.
RE: [split] Shifting roles of souls - AnthroHeart - 07-28-2015
Having a mate would mean a lot to me, but I'm not sure about putting in the effort to do so. So I can fondly look back to past lives with Ra, and a wolfy-anthro social memory complex. That gives my life meaning.
RE: [split] Shifting roles of souls - Bluebell - 07-28-2015
(07-28-2015, 01:23 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: The idea that entities within a soul group shift roles and connect in different capacities within incarnation is very common among the most popular past-life reading research. Carla talks in Book V about the possibility that she was Jim's son in a previous life-time. I don't find it very disturbing, as these social roles are temporary and illusory. We put them on and let them play out in order to help us navigate distortions within incarnation, but they are easily removed upon the distillation of the lessons learned within incarnation.
I agree it can be disturbing to think about parental figures in terms of having a more intimate and romantic relationship with them, but the roles and personalities that cause these thoughts to be uncomfortable are rather temporary according to many past-life researchers.
Carla in Book 5:
Quote: An interesting bit of possible past history was expressed years ago to Jim in a psychic reading: it was suggested that in the American great plains frontier of the nineteenth century, Don and Jim were brothers living together as farmers. I was Jim’s child, Don’s nephew, and I lived only to the age of five, being sickly from birth. This was suggested as being preparation for their taking care of me in this life, as I dealt with disability, limitation and especially psychic greeting during the time of the Ra contact. It rings true at some level with me. However, I also feel that we do not need to know anything of our past associations in order to learn and serve together at this present moment. We have all we need to meet the present moment. The rest is just details.
it's disturbing to me! u people here on b4 intellectualize everything and push compassion to the side! it's not temporary or illusory, it's our souls! ur dispassionate attitude only hurts me more!
RE: [split] Shifting roles of souls - Minyatur - 07-28-2015
(07-28-2015, 01:41 PM)Bluebell Wrote: it's disturbing to me! u people here on b4 intellectualize everything and push compassion to the side! it's not temporary or illusory, it's our souls! ur dispassionate attitude only hurts me more!
If I told you that you have known your father's soul for over hundreds of thousands of years, would that be disturbing?
Why would your father/mother need to be souls you've never been acquainted to before for it to not be disturbing?
RE: [split] Shifting roles of souls - Bluebell - 07-28-2015
(07-28-2015, 01:36 PM)Matt1 Wrote: In Michael Newtons Journey of Souls, he said that people often share different family rolls over incarnations. Such as the father being the mother, the brother becoming the sister, the sister becoming the mother and so on, if i recall. As a means to balance out.
u don't understand anything about balance matt!
RE: [split] Shifting roles of souls - Bluebell - 07-28-2015
(07-28-2015, 01:44 PM)Elros Tar-Minyatur Wrote:(07-28-2015, 01:41 PM)Bluebell Wrote: it's disturbing to me! u people here on b4 intellectualize everything and push compassion to the side! it's not temporary or illusory, it's our souls! ur dispassionate attitude only hurts me more!
If I told you that you have known your father's soul for over hundreds of thousands of years, would that be disturbing?
Why would your father/mother need to be souls you've never been acquainted to before for it to not be disturbing?
u don't know anything about my incarnations. i'm upset and all everyone in this thread is doing is poking me for lols. so i have feelings. unlike u supposed sto beings.
RE: [split] Shifting roles of souls - Minyatur - 07-28-2015
(07-28-2015, 01:49 PM)Bluebell Wrote:(07-28-2015, 01:44 PM)Elros Tar-Minyatur Wrote:(07-28-2015, 01:41 PM)Bluebell Wrote: it's disturbing to me! u people here on b4 intellectualize everything and push compassion to the side! it's not temporary or illusory, it's our souls! ur dispassionate attitude only hurts me more!
If I told you that you have known your father's soul for over hundreds of thousands of years, would that be disturbing?
Why would your father/mother need to be souls you've never been acquainted to before for it to not be disturbing?
u don't know anything about my incarnations. i'm upset and all everyone in this thread is doing is poking me for lols. so i have feelings. unlike u supposed sto beings.
I gave that as an example, not as poking.
From my perspective souls are friends that share many kind of stories and to have different stories with the same soul friends, you need to explore different scenarios.
I also do think the bond between souls goes deeper than lovers, parents, childrens, friends, etc. The relationship is of self and other-self, everyone being another you whether you hate or love them.
RE: [split] Shifting roles of souls - Bring4th_Austin - 07-28-2015
(07-28-2015, 01:41 PM)Bluebell Wrote:(07-28-2015, 01:23 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: The idea that entities within a soul group shift roles and connect in different capacities within incarnation is very common among the most popular past-life reading research. Carla talks in Book V about the possibility that she was Jim's son in a previous life-time. I don't find it very disturbing, as these social roles are temporary and illusory. We put them on and let them play out in order to help us navigate distortions within incarnation, but they are easily removed upon the distillation of the lessons learned within incarnation.
I agree it can be disturbing to think about parental figures in terms of having a more intimate and romantic relationship with them, but the roles and personalities that cause these thoughts to be uncomfortable are rather temporary according to many past-life researchers.
Carla in Book 5:
Quote: An interesting bit of possible past history was expressed years ago to Jim in a psychic reading: it was suggested that in the American great plains frontier of the nineteenth century, Don and Jim were brothers living together as farmers. I was Jim’s child, Don’s nephew, and I lived only to the age of five, being sickly from birth. This was suggested as being preparation for their taking care of me in this life, as I dealt with disability, limitation and especially psychic greeting during the time of the Ra contact. It rings true at some level with me. However, I also feel that we do not need to know anything of our past associations in order to learn and serve together at this present moment. We have all we need to meet the present moment. The rest is just details.
it's disturbing to me! u people here on b4 intellectualize everything and push compassion to the side! it's not temporary or illusory, it's our souls! ur dispassionate attitude only hurts me more!
Is there a way we can discuss how we do not find this idea disturbing without you feeling hurt by our explanations? Also, do you think anyone is hurt by you calling their beliefs disturbing?
It's ultimately not an intellectual thing for me - it's something I feel is true in my heart as an expression of the unity of the Creator.
RE: [split] Shifting roles of souls - Bluebell - 07-28-2015
(07-28-2015, 01:54 PM)Elros Tar-Minyatur Wrote:(07-28-2015, 01:49 PM)Bluebell Wrote:(07-28-2015, 01:44 PM)Elros Tar-Minyatur Wrote:(07-28-2015, 01:41 PM)Bluebell Wrote: it's disturbing to me! u people here on b4 intellectualize everything and push compassion to the side! it's not temporary or illusory, it's our souls! ur dispassionate attitude only hurts me more!
If I told you that you have known your father's soul for over hundreds of thousands of years, would that be disturbing?
Why would your father/mother need to be souls you've never been acquainted to before for it to not be disturbing?
u don't know anything about my incarnations. i'm upset and all everyone in this thread is doing is poking me for lols. so i have feelings. unlike u supposed sto beings.
I gave that as an example, not as poking.
From my perspective souls are friends that share many kind of stories and to have different stories with the same soul friends, you need to explore different scenarios.
I also do think the bond between souls goes deeper than lovers, parents, childrens, friends, etc. The relationship is of self and other-self, everyone being another you whether you hate or love them.
ur explanation doesn't help me! the more u say, the more it hurts me! this is ur theory, not fact!
RE: [split] Shifting roles of souls - Bluebell - 07-28-2015
(07-28-2015, 01:58 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: Is there a way we can discuss how we do not find this idea disturbing without you feeling hurt by our explanations?
u could stop trying to convince me of ur hurtful, disturbing theory and maybe care that being ganged upon makes me feel worse.
Quote:Also, do you think anyone is hurt by you calling their beliefs disturbing?
no. u people aren't hurt by having sex w ur parents, so gee i can't think how anything else could.
RE: [split] Shifting roles of souls - Aion - 07-28-2015
I don't think anybody here has said anything about having sex with their parents... it seems like you're intentionally twisting the idea.
I, personally, understand why you would be disturbed even though it's something I've come to terms with. I don't think it's that unusual that someone would be upset over this notion. It's the same as people getting upset when they find out someone they love is someone who hurt them or someone who hurt them is someone they love. It is totally and perfectly reasonable to be upset or disturbed by these things, especially when under the veil. I can understand that perspective, I know others who have similar feelings.
One of the reasons I typically prefer to only send my readings through PM rather than posting them publicly is for this very reason of crossed information. The information in that reading was intended for IGW and no one else, so I don't understand why anybody else would be taking on 'offense' for HIS reading. Maybe you find the ideas disturbing, that's fine, but in the end, it wasn't for you.
RE: [split] Shifting roles of souls - Minyatur - 07-28-2015
(07-28-2015, 02:02 PM)Bluebell Wrote:(07-28-2015, 01:54 PM)Elros Tar-Minyatur Wrote:(07-28-2015, 01:49 PM)Bluebell Wrote: u don't know anything about my incarnations. i'm upset and all everyone in this thread is doing is poking me for lols. so i have feelings. unlike u supposed sto beings.
I gave that as an example, not as poking.
From my perspective souls are friends that share many kind of stories and to have different stories with the same soul friends, you need to explore different scenarios.
I also do think the bond between souls goes deeper than lovers, parents, childrens, friends, etc. The relationship is of self and other-self, everyone being another you whether you hate or love them.
ur explanation doesn't help me! the more u say, the more it hurts me! this is ur theory, not fact!
My intention wasn't to hurt you, I am sorry if it did.
RE: [split] Shifting roles of souls - Matt1 - 07-28-2015
(07-28-2015, 01:45 PM)Bluebell Wrote:(07-28-2015, 01:36 PM)Matt1 Wrote: In Michael Newtons Journey of Souls, he said that people often share different family rolls over incarnations. Such as the father being the mother, the brother becoming the sister, the sister becoming the mother and so on, if i recall. As a means to balance out.
u don't understand anything about balance matt!
Wow, that was a fairly direct attack at me wasn't it? Or have i misread you?
Why do i know nothing about balance? and even if you believe i don't know anything about balance, i was pointing out the teachings of Michael Newton received from the unconsciousness of those who were in a hypnotic trance.